CPU temps seem a bit too high.

sbreame

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No worries :). Yeah please keep us up to date!

Also, with regards to the support message I would wholly recommend if you can to give them a call and/or sending an email. [email protected]
0844 499 4000
Monday - Friday 9am - 5pm (Saturdays 9am - 1pm)
Call waiting times here: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/call-waiting/

I just sent the message haha, will give them a call tomorrow evening if no reply.


Just playing diablo 3 for 10 minutes and here's the results.


Core #0 56c
Core #1 52c
Core #2 58c
Core #3 60c


Still pretty hot.
 

steaky360

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Its certainly warm for Diablo 3 (which isn't particularly graphically intensive, let alone CPU!) but usually 60c isn't really very warm at all for CPU. Yeah give them a buzz tomorrow, best to hear it from them that its ok (or not) and get it sorted!

Also lines close at 5pm so you'll have to call before that :)
 

sbreame

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Its certainly warm for Diablo 3 (which isn't particularly graphically intensive, let alone CPU!) but usually 60c isn't really very warm at all for CPU. Yeah give them a buzz tomorrow, best to hear it from them that its ok (or not) and get it sorted!

Also lines close at 5pm so you'll have to call before that :)


Just checked to see if the cooler was lose, and it isn't.

Ah well, am out most of the morning, and a bit busy early afternoon, so will call them about 3ish I think. Maybe they will respond to the support ticket beforehand.
 

sbreame

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No updates yet, been pretty busy today and will be tomorrow, if no reply, I will ring on thursday. General gaming and use is fine, and I have no videos in production for a little while so I don't mind waiting a few more days.
 

sbreame

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Personal Update - I am going to leave phoning them till next monday, since I got a busy week ahead. The PC is stable so it's not an emergency.

One thing I did noticed though looking at RealTemp and other monitoring software is that the base clock is set to 100.30 I'm not sure if this is to achieve the 3.8ghz boost or not but I was fairly certain that basically all CPU's base clock is at 100.00 by default? Although I don't think the extra 200mhz in boost would cause a high temp.
 

steaky360

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Personal Update - I am going to leave phoning them till next monday, since I got a busy week ahead. The PC is stable so it's not an emergency.

One thing I did noticed though looking at RealTemp and other monitoring software is that the base clock is set to 100.30 I'm not sure if this is to achieve the 3.8ghz boost or not but I was fairly certain that basically all CPU's base clock is at 100.00 by default? Although I don't think the extra 200mhz in boost would cause a high temp.

You're correct, it would not cause any significant increase in temps. As you say if the PC is stable I guess its not a massive issue. Let us know how you get on if/when you do call PCS :). It will be interesting to hear what they have to say!
 

sbreame

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I just did 2 runs of 3DMark06 and here's the temps

Core #0 68c
Core #1 65c
Core #2 74c
Core #3 76c


They are lower then before...weird. I hope it is just a case of having to let the thermal paste settle or something haha. Will continue to run tests over the weekend before I ring up PCS on monday.
 

tom_gr7

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If i was going to temp test my rig,

I'd use prime 95 to test the cpu at max and for the gpu's I'd just play the most intensive game I have whilst recording/observing the temps.
 

sbreame

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If i was going to temp test my rig,

I'd use prime 95 to test the cpu at max and for the gpu's I'd just play the most intensive game I have whilst recording/observing the temps.


True.


My GPU is perfectly fine. It's just the CPU is/was a bit... weird. 3dmark06 pushed my cpu 100% and even made it boost to 3.8ghz but temps were lower then when I made this thread, so I truly don't know. As mentioned before though, the system is fully stable so it's not an emergency.
 

steaky360

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and even made it boost to 3.8ghz

As far as I know, if your CPU is pushed to 100% it should always automatically boost up to max clock using the Intel Inteli-Boost thingy.

Looking at the last set of temps you posted I would not suggest you have a problem. If it is concerning you the best thing you can do is follow tom's advice above and test it. Although the amount of benchmarks and tests etc. you've done so far would have pointed out any problems within the system itself. :)
 

sbreame

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As far as I know, if your CPU is pushed to 100% it should always automatically boost up to max clock using the Intel Inteli-Boost thingy.

Looking at the last set of temps you posted I would not suggest you have a problem. If it is concerning you the best thing you can do is follow tom's advice above and test it. Although the amount of benchmarks and tests etc. you've done so far would have pointed out any problems within the system itself. :)


Steaky, up for some benching with your machine? the last temps makes me wonder if it's the softwares used rather then the hardware. Although as we said earlier in the thread, 100% is 100% the software used shouldn't make it hotter then the others regardless. I haven't slept yet and need to be somewhere in few hours so am playing D3 and blasting music to keep awake lmao.

Will do some more tests tomorrow using Prime95, 3Dmark06, 3Dmark vintage and intelburn test.

I also agree that the last temps posted looks absolutely fine, I just thought my cpu cooler would of been better? considering PCS uses it in their OC'd machines.
 

steaky360

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I'm currently running a H100 on my processor (OC'd to 4.2Ghz) and I get around 75 - 80 degrees max usually only on one core. However, bear in mind the room the PC is in usually warms up a good few degrees if its left on running the benchmark so its not ideal really. I'm going to look into my OC see if I can tweak it a bit to cool it down.
 

sbreame

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I'm currently running a H100 on my processor (OC'd to 4.2Ghz) and I get around 75 - 80 degrees max usually only on one core. However, bear in mind the room the PC is in usually warms up a good few degrees if its left on running the benchmark so its not ideal really. I'm going to look into my OC see if I can tweak it a bit to cool it down.

I expected my cpu to be 60c max on load with this cooler, hence why I still have some concerns. At the moment, strangely, the more that I've used the pc so far (total) the cooler the CPU is getting, so yeah... confusing stuff.

I just need someone else to run tests using the same 4 programs so we can see if it's the actual software used.
 

steaky360

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Definitely wont be the different programs bud. Although I'll do some test over the next few days for you and report back (assuming I don't forget! I'll try not to).

The CPU may be 'burning in' the thermal paste - I've heard there are some pastes which improve as the 'burn in' during the start of the PC's life. Obviously this should level out eventually.

Any reason you expected 60c max?
 

sbreame

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Definitely wont be the different programs bud. Although I'll do some test over the next few days for you and report back (assuming I don't forget! I'll try not to).

The CPU may be 'burning in' the thermal paste - I've heard there are some pastes which improve as the 'burn in' during the start of the PC's life. Obviously this should level out eventually.

Any reason you expected 60c max?

Just an estimate really as I would of thought if the same cooler on a OC'd cpu keeps the temps at a good number but mine is hotter at stock. It could be just the cpu itself that runs hot.
The theory of the paste burning in could be true also. If the tests tomorrow all bring in the same, or lower temps then the latest report then it's all good.
 
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tom_gr7

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temps will depend on a few things, such as
- airflow within the case, can the case withdraw the air from your gpu/cpu effectively? How much airflow is going in? Equal amounts going in Ie positive or negative airflow?
- Is there enough airflow for your components?
- Are cables blocking the airflow?
- What design Gpu do you have? palit reference or Jetstream? - different designs exhaust the airflow differently.
- What rooms temps do you have?

Also what thermal paste have you got? Mx4 doesn't need any/much burn in time.
 

sbreame

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temps will depend on a few things, such as
- airflow within the case, can the case withdraw the air from your gpu/cpu effectively? How much airflow is going in? Equal amounts going in Ie positive or negative airflow?
- Is there enough airflow for your components?
- Are cables blocking the airflow?
- What design Gpu do you have? palit reference or Jetstream? - different designs exhaust the airflow differently.
- What rooms temps do you have?

Also what thermal paste have you got? Mx4 doesn't need any/much burn in time.

Responding in order.

1 in 3 out (could be 2 in 2 out, can't tell with the side fan) Front is intake, back and top is out.
There is plenty of airflow
No cables blocking
Palit reference
it was about 17c when I did the last test.

No idea what thermal paste PCS used.
 

tom_gr7

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you side fan will/probably be intake, try holding a piece of paper to the window. But anyway that should be enough airflow.

The palit reference will (I think) exhaust the warm/hot air out of the back of the pc, so you wont have any issues of the gpu heating up the case, where as a card like the MSi one below would exhaust into the case
msi-geforce-gtx680-twin-frozr-iii-4gb-1.jpg

17 is pretty cool, from my experience wouldn't have much impact on pc temps, over 23/4 does for me.

If you didn't choose to overclock your pc, ( when you ordered) you will just have the standard thermal paste, that is more than good enough.

If you like, I'll run prime 95 on my pc, and see what kinda temps I get, different cooler/case/setup but still a air cooler.
 

sbreame

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you side fan will/probably be intake, try holding a piece of paper to the window. But anyway that should be enough airflow.

The palit reference will (I think) exhaust the warm/hot air out of the back of the pc, so you wont have any issues of the gpu heating up the case, where as a card like the MSi one below would exhaust into the case
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17 is pretty cool, from my experience wouldn't have much impact on pc temps, over 23/4 does for me.

If you didn't choose to overclock your pc, ( when you ordered) you will just have the standard thermal paste, that is more than good enough.

If you like, I'll run prime 95 on my pc, and see what kinda temps I get, different cooler/case/setup but still a air cooler.


Yeah go for it, I'll do a run of Prime95 tomorrow, gotta shoot out in a few mins.

And yes, the side is intake. Also for extra cooling, the top of the case is opened (it's like a reptiles scales) kinda like >>>>
 
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