Constant freezing after fresh install

[Scott]

There's nothing that's standing out massively for me. As above, remove everything you possibly can to remove any outliers. Even getting into windows and removing all peripherals would be useful. Safe-mode would be handy as well as then it would only be basic drivers installed. If you get success with safe mode then it can, somewhat, narrow down the hardware location. It won't be anything with a driver at least, as the basic drivers are controlled.

After that, you're looking at GPU, CPU and then Motherboard. Do you have any older GPU cards that you could try? Is there something you could borrow? Being able to rule that out at this stage would be very useful.

If its not the GPU, this is a very rare scenario that's difficult to differentiate between motherboard and CPU. The failure at this time is so miniscule that it would be impossible to know without switching them out.

 

[ubuysa]

Safe Mode would be where I'd start too. If it freezes in Safe Mode then it's hardware, if it doesn't then it's software.

 

[DarkPaladin]

Thanks for the reply, I downloaded the win 11 installation media from ms to a usb and booted from that, formatting my SSD first before installing windows.

As for drivers I started to grab these after the install from the manufacturers sites but the constant freezes mean I can't get through this. Appreciate the help.

I used to hate Armoury Crate, but I found that Asus drivers are becoming more tedious than ever to manually install. Nowadays, there's multiple chipset drivers you have to install and there is no indication if/when they actually install with AsusSetup files. I would recommend installing Windows fresh, install Armoury Crate, then download the drivers through this software. Once you're finished, remove Armoury Crate completely and hopefully your PC will be working fine.

Armoury Crate: https://rog.asus.com/uk/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-x570-f-gaming-model/helpdesk_download/

Also, I'm not sure if helps, but in the past I had Watchdog Violation issues which were related to a GPU driver. The most highly recommended NVIDIA Driver is 537.58 which is fairly old at this point, but it has the most stable performance with strong 1% lows etc. You could try installing that driver after using DDU if all else fails.

DDU: https://www.guru3d.com/download/display-driver-uninstaller-download/
GPU Driver: https://www.nvidia.co.uk/download/driverResults.aspx/212776/en-uk

Also, (similar to what ThyThy said) you could look at temperatures with software such as HWInfo. It has a lot of readings and helps diagnose potential issues in a very user-friendly way. https://sourceforge.net/projects/hwinfo/files/Windows_Installer/hwi64_810.exe/download

 

[SpyderTracks]

I used to hate Armoury Crate, but I found that Asus drivers are becoming more tedious than ever to manually install. Nowadays, there's multiple chipset drivers you have to install and there is no indication if/when they actually install with AsusSetup files. I would recommend installing Windows fresh, install Armoury Crate, then download the drivers through this software. Once you're finished, remove Armoury Crate completely and hopefully your PC will be working fine.

Armoury Crate: https://rog.asus.com/uk/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-x570-f-gaming-model/helpdesk_download/

Also, I'm not sure if helps, but in the past I had Watchdog Violation issues which were related to a GPU driver. The most highly recommended NVIDIA Driver is 537.58 which is fairly old at this point, but it has the most stable performance with strong 1% lows etc. You could try installing that driver after using DDU if all else fails.

DDU: https://www.guru3d.com/download/display-driver-uninstaller-download/
GPU Driver: https://www.nvidia.co.uk/download/driverResults.aspx/212776/en-uk

Also, (similar to what ThyThy said) you could look at temperatures with software such as HWInfo. It has a lot of readings and helps diagnose potential issues in a very user-friendly way. https://sourceforge.net/projects/hwinfo/files/Windows_Installer/hwi64_810.exe/download

Armory crate is really bad software and best avoided. You should never need to install any drivers from manufacturers since windows 8 days, all drivers are served by the optional updates section of windows update.

 

[DarkPaladin]

Armory crate is really bad software and best avoided. You should never need to install any drivers from manufacturers since windows 8 days, all drivers are served by the optional updates section of windows update.

Yeah, I hate Armoury Crate and would advise against keeping it on a long-term basis, but it does serve one benefit and that is installing the motherboard drivers fairly reliably. As soon as it's finished, I got rid of it and never looked back. I tend to install drivers from the manufacturers still since they're usually more up to date. I've had issues with Windows installing outdated drivers which is why I generally avoid doing this until all the other drivers have been installed.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Yeah, I hate Armoury Crate and would advise against keeping it on a long-term basis, but it does serve one benefit and that is installing the motherboard drivers fairly reliably. As soon as it's finished, I got rid of it and never looked back. I tend to install drivers from the manufacturers still since they're usually more up to date. I've had issues with Windows installing outdated drivers which is why I generally avoid doing this until all the other drivers have been installed.

That’s the point though, it’s well documented to regularly apply the wrong drivers, even on Asus own forums, they suggest fully cleaning it if it's on the system, the one area people totally avoid it if they have to have it to set motherboard RGB or something is the driver update part, it just doesn’t work and installs the wrong stuff.

Any driver within armoury crate will be WHQL signed, to do that it's automatically entered into the windows update catalogue, so windows update catalogue will be the same versions as on the manufacturers website anyway.

If you just search "Armoury Crate wrong drivers" you'll find countless posts on the fact it installs old versions, and often the wrong ones entirely, basically anywhere's best advice is never to use it

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The only way they'd be out of date on a windows installation is if someone had applied windows updates, but not optional updates. On any clean install it will just load basic drivers to get the system running. Those wouldn't be updated until optional updates had all been applied.

 

[TonyCarter]

Asus used to let you just download the Aura Sync software to run your motherboard RGB, but have now bundled it in the full Armoury Crate installer (there is a link to the old standalone Lighting Control installer, but there's a corrupt 'hal' file in there so it won't install).

I've installed, and the uninstalled as much as I could whilst keeping the motherboard (and GPU as it only works if the Asus plug-in is also used) lighting going...but it's still the most RAM hungry of anything on my system at idle (about 2.5GB, sat there doing nothing), and I'm pruning it back further now.