Chrome crash due to recent update

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ubuysa

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TBH I don't understand the complaints that Chrome eats a lot of RAM. That's how it delivers both stability and performance.

RAM isn't something you need to keep as empty as possible, it's something you want fully utilised. It's expensive stuff - so use it. That's like buying a car with a 30 gallon petrol tank and only ever putting 15 gallons of petrol in, just so's there's always room for more!

The CPU can only operate on programs and data that are already in RAM, so the more code and data you can keep in RAM the better your performance is going to be. Trying to second guess the (excellent) Windows Memory Manager by worrying when your RAM is heavily utilised is like buying a dog and barking yourself.

Windows memory management actively tries to use as much RAM as it possibly can, it's trying its hardest to fill your RAM up with stuff - because the CPU can only operate on code and data that's already in RAM - so Windows is actively trying to fill your RAM up and you're worrying because your RAM is filling up!

This is why looking at how much RAM is 'in use' at any given time is a futile exercise, it tells you nothing useful. The Windows Memory Manager can manage RAM use far more effectively and far more efficiently that you ever can, and whilst Chrome does have issues (the volume of telemetry it collects for one) its use of RAM is something that can be safely left in the hands of the Windows Memory Manager.
 
SpyderTracks

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ubuysa said:
TBH I don't understand the complaints that Chrome eats a lot of RAM. That's how it delivers both stability and performance.

RAM isn't something you need to keep as empty as possible, it's something you want fully utilised. It's expensive stuff - so use it. That's like buying a car with a 30 gallon petrol tank and only ever putting 15 gallons of petrol in, just so's there's always room for more!

The CPU can only operate on programs and data that are already in RAM, so the more code and data you can keep in RAM the better your performance is going to be. Trying to second guess the (excellent) Windows Memory Manager by worrying when your RAM is heavily utilised is like buying a dog and barking yourself.

Windows memory management actively tries to use as much RAM as it possibly can, it's trying its hardest to fill your RAM up with stuff - because the CPU can only operate on code and data that's already in RAM - so Windows is actively trying to fill your RAM up and you're worrying because your RAM is filling up!

This is why looking at how much RAM is 'in use' at any given time is a futile exercise, it tells you nothing useful. The Windows Memory Manager can manage RAM use far more effectively and far more efficiently that you ever can, and whilst Chrome does have issues (the volume of telemetry it collects for one) its use of RAM is something that can be safely left in the hands of the Windows Memory Manager.
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It’s how slow and cumbersome it is because of its bloat though. The RAM is purely being eaten up by all the tracking that’s going on, proved by some of the tracking blocker add ins you can get.

Awful browser.
 
ubuysa

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SpyderTracks said:
It’s how slow and cumbersome it is because of its bloat though. The RAM is purely being eaten up by all the tracking that’s going on, proved by some of the tracking blocker add ins you can get.

Awful browser.
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I'm not defending Chrome, I'm questioning the suggestion that Chrome is a bad browser because it uses a lot of RAM. The idea that you have to manually ensure you always have plenty of free RAM is a nonsense and it's a mistake to avoid an application just because it uses a lot of RAM.

TBH only the Google developers know how Chrome uses RAM and what it uses it for. :)
 
ubuysa

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JediMonsoon said:
@ubuysa Which browser do you use now? I know you were Vivaldi but stopped that?
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I'm using three, for different purposes. Currently I use Waterfox as my 'main' browser, but I also use native Firefox for streaming TV and SRWare Iron (a Chromium based browser) for streaming radio. I use three rather than one just because it's organisationally more efficient for me to do it that way. :)
 
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ubuysa said:
I'm using three, for different purposes. Currently I use Waterfox as my 'main' browser, but I also use native Firefox for streaming TV and SRWare Iron (a Chromium based browser) for streaming radio. I use three rather than one just because it's organisationally more efficient for me to do it that way. :)
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Which waterfox, classic or G3, I've G3 on both the desktop & laptop, with firefox on the phone
 
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