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[Billwerrett]

Case
THERMALTAKE V200 2.0 TEMPERED GLASS RGB EDITION GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i5 Six Core Processor i5-10600K (4.1 GHz) 12 MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX Z490-F GAMING (LGA1200, USB 3.2, CrossFireX/SLI) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
1TB Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 560MB/sR | 530MB/sW)
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RM SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100x Hydro Cooler w/ PCS Ultra Quiet Fans
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
1x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KK3-00002]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 23 to 25 working days

Any updates/tweaks welcome. If you're here to recommend an AMD system, I'm listening if rough guess on price is posted too, not exactly an intel fan boy, but when you're spending so much, it is hard to leave what you know.

Thanks in advance

 

[AgentCooper]

I'm listening if rough guess on price is posted too

What does that sentence mean? I’m not understanding...

 

[MrWilson]

If you let us know your budget, monitor and use case for the PC one of the kind souls on here will be happy to spec you up a solid AMD build that should last 7-10 years. Right now I think everyone is a bit bamboozled by what you’ve posted 😂

 

[Bigfoot]

I think that he means he would like an idea of the price of an equivalent (or better) AMD build.

 

[Billwerrett]

Correct Mr Bigfoot! Budget, I will push to £2k, but anything lower would be nice of course. 27" QHD monitor (1440p) 240hz.

Edit: I don't really play FPS games, so I am happy with 60+ FPS at 1440p as I don't think it makes much of a difference for the sort of games I play.

Edit 2: The only AAA game I intend to play is red dead 2, I usually don't touch them....Cyberpunk possible in a year when the bugs are fixed.

 

[AgentCooper]

Budget, I will push to £2k, but anything lower would be nice of course.

Okay, now I see. Would’ve been very handy for us all if you’d actually included the price that your Intel build came to 🙃

Anyway, put together a lovely balanced AMD system that’d suit nicely. Given that you’re not too fussed about frame rate, the 3060Ti is an excellent proposition...

Case
CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 Ti - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RM SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 21 to 23 working days
Price: £1,867.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/B52Gn7gvCM/

 

[Billwerrett]

I thought that, but as I'm not an expert, (my CPU and GPU knowledge is good, but others parts aren't up to scratch) I didn't want someone one the otherside of the fence (Intel hater), coming along and dropping the quality of the other parts just to get a cheaper system (Not that I think a moderator would do that ) This is actually around £50 more than my build, I did my research, saw everyone was saying that AMD is better....but the 10600k and 3070 seem too good value to miss? Which is the rarer GPU, the 3060TI or the 3070?

 

[Scott]

Intel have completely dropped the ball. They won't even have PCIe4.0 compatibility until the next CPU is launched. PCIe4.0 doesn't offer a ton of extra performance, but it does offer a marginal gain in FPS. It's also significantly faster with M2 drives and the like.

That's before you go into the whole host of other issues that Intel have right now (Check my sig, I'm an Intel user). Most enthusiasts just go with whatever is best, there aren't any fanboy' regulars on here that I can think of.

3070 is more powerful than the 3060Ti. The monitor will max out either GPU, if framerate is important to you then the 3070 will make a difference. Either GPU will offer a good playing experience though.

If you wanted to save a little, the 5600X is just as good at gaming as the 5950X, so there is little to be had with the extra cores in play. If you opt for the 5600X you can lower the motherboard to the B550 Wifi, which in turn means you can drop the add-on Wifi card, and you can also remove the need for a cooler as the stock cooler on the 5600X is more than enough for gaming.

 

[Gavras]

I thought that, but as I'm not an expert, (my CPU and GPU knowledge is good, but others parts aren't up to scratch) I didn't want someone one the otherside of the fence (Intel hater), coming along and dropping the quality of the other parts just to get a cheaper system (Not that I think a moderator would do that ) This is actually around £50 more than my build, I did my research, saw everyone was saying that AMD is better....but the 10600k and 3070 seem too good value to miss? Which is the rarer GPU, the 3060TI or the 3070?

Btw on here moderator or minion, we all give balanced advice, we look to build a balanced system and offer information to people to make informed choices.

Now if people choose to ignore all this, it’s their budget and their rig to live with.

Would an Intel build be okay, yes it would, at this moment in time would it be a wise educated choice, absolutely not.

The latest Intel,CPU is due out in around 7 weeks, it unlike current range is PCIe 4.0, it’s faster however it is also an interim CPU as Intel is broken at a basic level.

They are struggling with architecture, AMD are taking over by building better Architectur, Apple moved away from them for similar reasons and back to ARM.

Intel are also going back to TSMC pretty much cap in hand.

They had to change Rocket lake core layout etc due to their broken architecture etc.

Intel's manufacturing is broken and new Rocket Lake CPUs prove it

The next six months are make or break as Intel hurtles towards existential crisis.

www.pcgamer.com

AMD Vs Intel

So some of you aren't aware of the reasons why so many people are heading away from Intel to AMD, so thought it would be important to lay that out for people to refer back to. A lot of you will go to cpubenchmark or userbenchmark to find performance metrics for CPU's. These sites are complete...

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What's been going wrong for Intel?

Here's a brief summary of the trials and tribulations of the original chipmaking giant.

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The biggest PC gaming questions Intel needs to answer in 2021

The Empire strikes back?

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[ubuysa]

I didn't want someone one the otherside of the fence (Intel hater), coming along and dropping the quality of the other parts just to get a cheaper system (Not that I think a moderator would do that)

There are no 'Intel haters' on here, any that appeared wouldn't be allowed to stay long, the mods work hard to ensure that these forums stay balanced and friendly. The biggest advantage of these forums is that everyone on here provides an independent and objective opinion backed up by knowledge and/or experience (usually both).

I've said this many times before but the moderators are not necessarily the technical experts. As it happens most are, but moderators are not selected because of their hardware knowledge or skills - if they were I wouldn't be one. There are plenty of regular contributors who are very technically capable but who aren't moderators.

 

[AgentCooper]

I agree with all of the above. It's not about Intel-hating, it's just that AMD are genuinely trouncing them on performance as well as price these days. I look forward to the day when we're offering build assistance and can actually have an in-depth debate about which CPU will be the better for the OP but for now... there's no contest.

 

[Billwerrett]

Thanks for the feedback guys. So seeing as the AMD build was slightly more expensive, as it is just for gaming, no heavy workloads or streaming, the 5600x is the way to go? Coupled with a 3070? The 3070 seems too good to miss out on.

 

[AgentCooper]

Thanks for the feedback guys. So seeing as the AMD build was slightly more expensive, as it is just for gaming, no heavy workloads or streaming, the 5600x is the way to go? Coupled with a 3070? The 3070 seems too good to miss out on.

The 5600X would serve you very well. The 5800X might benefit you if you're into flight sims or a Total War maniac as those titles can be a bit core-heavy. But the 5600X is no slouch! And the 3070 will give you very high settings at 120+ frames per second.

 

[Resistance100]

The 5600X would serve you very well. The 5800X might benefit you if you're into flight sims or a Total War maniac as those titles can be a bit core-heavy. But the 5600X is no slouch! And the 3070 will give you very high settings at 120+ frames per second.

Can confirm the 5600x is more than capable at running MSFS if that’s is a concern. The 5600x/3070 combo has been a beast for me so far at 1440p

 

[Billwerrett]

I was into Total war up until Shogun 2! I still play empire every now and then! But too streamlined nowadays. HOI4 come 1945 though will be a test for any CPU so it is worth looking into. Appreciated!

 

[Gavras]

Thanks for the feedback guys. So seeing as the AMD build was slightly more expensive, as it is just for gaming, no heavy workloads or streaming, the 5600x is the way to go? Coupled with a 3070? The 3070 seems too good to miss out on.

With the Ryzen 5 5600 and not doing any heavy gaming then that’s ideal.

with a 27” 1440 and not being worried about FPS (as you mention above).

then it really comes down to games you play, the type, the graphic settings you prefer, I use custom as I find ultra utterly pointless and it kills FPS for very very little quality gain.

Then the 3060ti would fit the bill

equally, if looking for higher frame rate and game settings Around Ultra, then 3070.

this is where the buyer needs to think about what they want, how important budget is etc.

 

[Gavras]

I was into Total war up until Shogun 2! I still play empire every now and then! But too streamlined nowadays. HOI4 come 1945 though will be a test for any CPU so it is worth looking into. Appreciated!

If you have not played it, Total War War Hammer 2, then it’s worth a go, not streamlined can provide some interesting campaigns and battles.

 

[AgentCooper]

Can confirm the 5600x is more than capable at running MSFS if that’s is a concern. The 5600x/3070 combo has been a beast for me so far at 1440p

Totally, I didn't mean to infer that the 5600X would struggle with MSFS20. But if someone was heavily into flight simulators (new and old), eight core upwards can be handy

 

[Billwerrett]

Can confirm the 5600x is more than capable at running MSFS if that’s is a concern. The 5600x/3070 combo has been a beast for me so far at 1440p

Sorry, think we replied very close together, wasn't ignoring the comment. MSFS...potentially in 6 months when the prices drop, I rarely buy new games.

With the Ryzen 5 5600 and not doing any heavy gaming then that’s ideal.

with a 27” 1440 and not being worried about FPS (as you mention above).

then it really comes down to games you play, the type, the graphic settings you prefer, I use custom as I find ultra utterly pointless and it kills FPS for very very little quality gain.

Then the 3060ti would fit the bill

equally, if looking for higher frame rate and game settings Around Ultra, then 3070.

this is where the buyer needs to think about what they want, how important budget is etc.

Yeah, I mean, FPS I want solid above 60! But it isn't like I am looking for 144fps for that perfect FPS experience....just realised both acronyms are FPS. 60+ frames per second as I don't play first person shooters so anything above 60 in a total war game or cities skylines or even red dead 2 is negligible for me. 1440p is the important thing for me, I just can't go back to 1080 does that make me a snob?

If you have not played it, Total War War Hammer 2, then it’s worth a go, not streamlined can provide some interesting campaigns and battles.

Not sure if it because I love History, but I've never gotten into the warhammer games, never been tempted even!

 

[AgentCooper]

1440p is the important thing for me, I just can't go back to 1080 does that make me a snob?

No, that makes you a connoisseur...