I think it's a misunderstanding more than anything. The frustration isn't directed at you, even though it may feel that way, it's re-iterating the same thing on similar threads/comments that becomes a bit tiring. Granted, that frustration shouldn't be taken out on each member each time, I'm just trying to give understanding that it's not actually meant.... and it's simply human frustration.
I'll try and word it a little differently, off the cuff so to speak, to see if that helps a bit more.
The pairing with the GPU and the Monitor is important to get good value for money. If the value for money isn't a consideration, and is communicated, I feel should be accepted and just move on. A comment about why it's not a good idea is fine, but after that if you want to spend money on something that's OTT then it's your choice.
If you were to spec the entire system with future goals in mind (an upgraded GPU/Monitor line-up and preferably 10 years of gaming use) then the system itself wouldn't change very much regardless of GPU selection. No matter which GPU you select right now, the rest of the system will be good to go.
For a lower end 4k monitor, you would be looking at a lower end 4k GPU (more likely a 1440p GPU) for the value to make sense. It really depends on when you plan to upgrade the monitor but if it was 12 months + I would strongly advise that you pair the GPU with your current monitor, pocket the savings and when purchasing the new monitor..... line up a plug in GPU upgrade. The reason being, you will be back on the razors edge of technology and won't be missing out. Where if you over-spend on the GPU right now with the future monitor in mind, you're going to end up missing out on some new bells and whistles while most likely not actually saving any money (taking into account selling on GPUs).
At the moment we wouldn't recommend anything less than 12GB of vRAM and with 4k in mind I would opt for 16GB of vRAM. This lands you around the 5070Ti or the 9070XTX from AMD. The 9070 is by far and away the best value.
You can have a look at the price difference between these GPUs and the higher end GPUs but I will genuinely say that on the panel you won't notice a difference, the metrics that you mention only come into play when the monitor makes use of them, other wise they are empty frames etc.
I hope that helps to clarify. I'll finish by saying that we're all here for the love of the game. Noone wants anything but the best for you and your £, we're just passionate about you not being ripped off and falling into the traps of media hype and social trending etc. That's before even considering a salesman. People get sponsors, wages, advertising, etc, etc all to promote certain products and agendas. We're here for free using our own time to try and help you avoid this sort of agenda, often passionately so which can come across wrong at times.
I'll try and word it a little differently, off the cuff so to speak, to see if that helps a bit more.
The pairing with the GPU and the Monitor is important to get good value for money. If the value for money isn't a consideration, and is communicated, I feel should be accepted and just move on. A comment about why it's not a good idea is fine, but after that if you want to spend money on something that's OTT then it's your choice.
If you were to spec the entire system with future goals in mind (an upgraded GPU/Monitor line-up and preferably 10 years of gaming use) then the system itself wouldn't change very much regardless of GPU selection. No matter which GPU you select right now, the rest of the system will be good to go.
For a lower end 4k monitor, you would be looking at a lower end 4k GPU (more likely a 1440p GPU) for the value to make sense. It really depends on when you plan to upgrade the monitor but if it was 12 months + I would strongly advise that you pair the GPU with your current monitor, pocket the savings and when purchasing the new monitor..... line up a plug in GPU upgrade. The reason being, you will be back on the razors edge of technology and won't be missing out. Where if you over-spend on the GPU right now with the future monitor in mind, you're going to end up missing out on some new bells and whistles while most likely not actually saving any money (taking into account selling on GPUs).
At the moment we wouldn't recommend anything less than 12GB of vRAM and with 4k in mind I would opt for 16GB of vRAM. This lands you around the 5070Ti or the 9070XTX from AMD. The 9070 is by far and away the best value.
You can have a look at the price difference between these GPUs and the higher end GPUs but I will genuinely say that on the panel you won't notice a difference, the metrics that you mention only come into play when the monitor makes use of them, other wise they are empty frames etc.
I hope that helps to clarify. I'll finish by saying that we're all here for the love of the game. Noone wants anything but the best for you and your £, we're just passionate about you not being ripped off and falling into the traps of media hype and social trending etc. That's before even considering a salesman. People get sponsors, wages, advertising, etc, etc all to promote certain products and agendas. We're here for free using our own time to try and help you avoid this sort of agenda, often passionately so which can come across wrong at times.