Any suggestions for this build?

[jesus_man00]

Hey,
I'd like a pc to play games on steam mainly, such as euro truck sim, snowrunner, f1 22 etc.
I know this pc is up to spec for these games, and they should run smoothly, but I am right at the top of my budget. Is there anything that I could do to reduce the cost, no matter how little the reduction?

Here is the spec:
Case
LIAN LI LANCOOL 215 GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i5 10-Core Processor i5-12600KF (3.7GHz) 20MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 (LGA1700, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3500MB/sR | 2500MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W CV SERIES™ CV-650 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100x Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KK3-00027]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
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Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days
Price: £1,609.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z690-pc/hUu!aSWj!S/

 

[Salmon Fisher]

Do you really need 32GB of ram?

 

[jesus_man00]

Do you really need 32GB of ram?

in all honesty i dont know, but i currently have 8gb and it isnt enough, so I didn't want to get too little ram again. But for sure, I hadn't really thought about whether i needed that much ram

 

[Salmon Fisher]

16GB of 3200mhz is usually enough, so there's a saving.

 

[SpyderTracks]

I wouldn't look at buying anything until the 27th when AMD are releasing their next gen processors, plus a whole batch of other generational updates that aren't compatible with current gen stuff.

You'll get far more performance at the same price point.

 

[jesus_man00]

I wouldn't look at buying anything until the 27th when AMD are releasing their next gen processors, plus a whole batch of other generational updates that aren't compatible with current gen stuff.

You'll get far more performance at the same price point.

Alright thank you, hopefully 30 series gpu prices will go down too

 

[SpyderTracks]

Alright thank you, hopefully 30 series gpu prices will go down too

Yeah, absolutely, they really really should!

NVidia be taking the mick rather badly me thinks.

 

[jesus_man00]

Hello,
I have configured this build to be future-proofed for about 5 or so years. I play games such as ETS2, FS22, BeamNG.Drive, Assetto Corsa and Minecraft. I am aware that these specs may be overkill, but I built a cheap pc last time and cut too many corners, so I'd rather not make the same mistakes again.

Is there any way to shave even £1 off the price of this build?

Thanks!

Case
LIAN LI LANCOOL 215 GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i5 10-Core Processor i5-12600KF (3.7GHz) 20MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B660M-PLUS WIFI D4: mATX, LGA1700, USB 3.2, SATA 6GBs - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 2950MB/sW)
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 240 Series RGB High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 11 working days
Price: £1,490.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z690-pc/!s0QEuWxnB/

 

[sck451]

What display will you be using?

There's a few things I'd change. If you're only using the system for gaming, the 13400 would probably be a wiser choice than the 12600K as it's very close in performance for £60 less. I'd reconfigure the storage too, to get a 512GB boot drive, 1TB SSD and no hard drive. There's no point in a hard drive for gaming. I'd go for the FrostFlow 150 air cooler.

But it all depends on the display. If you have a 1080p display, there's not much point in the 3060 Ti and you could save hundreds there.

 

[jesus_man00]

What display will you be using?

There's a few things I'd change. If you're only using the system for gaming, the 13400 would probably be a wiser choice than the 12600K as it's very close in performance for £60 less. I'd reconfigure the storage too, to get a 512GB boot drive, 1TB SSD and no hard drive. There's no point in a hard drive for gaming. I'd go for the FrostFlow 150 air cooler.

But it all depends on the display. If you have a 1080p display, there's not much point in the 3060 Ti and you could save hundreds there.

Alright, thanks for the feedback mate. I have a 1080p 75Hz monitor right now, but I am planning to go to 1440p 144Hz soon, so that was the logic behind the 3060ti. If i were to keep this 1080p display, what GPU would you recommend for that?

 

[sck451]

Alright, thanks for the feedback mate. I have a 1080p 75Hz monitor right now, but I am planning to go to 1440p 144Hz soon, so that was the logic behind the 3060ti. If i were to keep this 1080p display, what GPU would you recommend for that?

I'd go for the 1440p and 3060 Ti option! (Indeed, from my signature you'll see that's precisely what I have done.)

If you were going to stick with the 1080p 75Hz display for a while (and I wouldn't), then the Radeon 6600 would be the appropriate level of graphics to aim for. But it would be a vastly lesser experience.

The other option is to go with AMD's last gen, which would be a little slower but not a lot slower, and is really good value.

Case
LIAN LI LANCOOL 215 GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Six Core CPU (3.5GHz-4.4GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3500MB/sR, 1625MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3300 MB/R, 2900 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 150 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
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NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
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Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 11 working days
Price: £1,340.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/m5qgz2dD87/

 

[jesus_man00]

I'd go for the 1440p and 3060 Ti option! (Indeed, from my signature you'll see that's precisely what I have done.)

If you were going to stick with the 1080p 75Hz display for a while (and I wouldn't), then the Radeon 6600 would be the appropriate level of graphics to aim for. But it would be a vastly lesser experience.

The other option is to go with AMD's last gen, which would be a little slower but not a lot slower, and is really good value.

Case
LIAN LI LANCOOL 215 GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Six Core CPU (3.5GHz-4.4GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3500MB/sR, 1625MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3300 MB/R, 2900 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 150 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 11 working days
Price: £1,340.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/m5qgz2dD87/

to be honest, for barely any more, i think the amendments you suggested to my original build make more sense, because that comes out to £1,361. I could be wrong though?

 

[sck451]

I make it a touch more for the equivalent build with Intel, because I'd also recommend upgrading the motherboard a tiny bit.

Honestly either would be a great choice. If you're going to be doing any kind of media production, the Intel option is in the lead. But for gaming, I doubt there's any significant difference.

Case
LIAN LI LANCOOL 215 GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i5 10-Core Processor i5-13400 (Up to 4.6GHz) 20MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B660-PLUS WIFI D4: ATX, LGA1700, USB 3.2, SATA 6GBs - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3500MB/sR, 1625MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3300 MB/R, 2900 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 150 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 11 working days
Price: £1,463.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z690-pc/KXnNp9db7q/

 

[jesus_man00]

I make it a touch more for the equivalent build with Intel, because I'd also recommend upgrading the motherboard a tiny bit.

Honestly either would be a great choice. If you're going to be doing any kind of media production, the Intel option is in the lead. But for gaming, I doubt there's any significant difference.

Case
LIAN LI LANCOOL 215 GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i5 10-Core Processor i5-13400 (Up to 4.6GHz) 20MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B660-PLUS WIFI D4: ATX, LGA1700, USB 3.2, SATA 6GBs - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3500MB/sR, 1625MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3300 MB/R, 2900 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 150 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 11 working days
Price: £1,463.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z690-pc/KXnNp9db7q/

thanks for the input, although I have a few questions.

Is the only difference between the 13400 and 13400F integrated graphics? If so, wouldn't I be better off going with the F, given its cheaper?
And same for the motherboard, is there a vast difference between the B660M and the B660?

Is the extra PSU power for extra headroom, or is it more significant?

 

[sck451]

thanks for the input, although I have a few questions.

Is the only difference between the 13400 and 13400F integrated graphics? If so, wouldn't I be better off going with the F, given its cheaper?
And same for the motherboard, is there a vast difference between the B660M and the B660?

Is the extra PSU power for extra headroom, or is it more significant?

Yes, just the integrated graphics. But they're a useful backup to have if your graphics card was ever to fail in some way. Personally I'd like the security it offers. But I can see why you'd opt for the cheaper one.

The M motherboard is micro-ATX, which means it's smaller and it also means in this case that it's less robust in terms of power delivery and cooling. For the 13400 it's probably ok, because it's not terribly power hungry, but it's not a board I'd want in my PC.

And for the PSU, it's more headroom, more efficiency, and crucially more capacity should you ever upgrade to a better graphics card (or indeed CPU) in the future. £20 difference now for much more flexibility and potential down the road, which should make your PC better value for money in the long term.

 

[jesus_man00]

ah alright, thank you! I think i'll ditch the integrated graphics, i like to live life on the edge sometimes . I shouldn't have really asked all of that because they're all the same mistakes i've made with my current system lol.

Yes, just the integrated graphics. But they're a useful backup to have if your graphics card was ever to fail in some way. Personally I'd like the security it offers. But I can see why you'd opt for the cheaper one.

The M motherboard is micro-ATX, which means it's smaller and it also means in this case that it's less robust in terms of power delivery and cooling. For the 13400 it's probably ok, because it's not terribly power hungry, but it's not a board I'd want in my PC.

And for the PSU, it's more headroom, more efficiency, and crucially more capacity should you ever upgrade to a better graphics card (or indeed CPU) in the future. £20 difference now for much more flexibility and potential down the road, which should make your PC better value for money in the long t