3080TI Build - Any advice appreciated!

[ChrDoy]

Hi everyone, last week I ordered the build copied below. Really excited about ordering it as it's a machine that I've been aiming (and saving) for quite some time. But I wanted to check with you all if I have made any obvious errors during my build or any advice that you can provide. I'm not overly confident in my choice of case so I would especially appreciate any feedback you have on that choice at least in addition to any others. I'm also aware that the thermal paste may not be needed as the corsair cooler is already applied however for the minimal additional cost I couldn't see any down side in adding it.

My use cases will be;

- Flight Simulator titles (with optimisation for frames above minimum of 30 fps)
- Upcoming battlefield title
- Racing titles
- Solidworks CAD and Ansys FEA and CFD for professional purposes (as I'm a fluids engineer by day and gamer by night )
- In general I wanted quick loading times for OS and games using M.2 and storage of additional files via SATA SSD.

Thanks again and look forward to hearing from you!


Case
BE QUIET! DARK BASE PRO 900 REV. 2 FULL TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 Ten-Core Processor i9-10900K (3.7GHz) 20MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG MAXIMUS XII HERO Wi-Fi (LGA1200, USB 3.2, CrossFireX/SLI) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 Ti - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
2TB Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 560MB/sR | 530MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H150i RGB PRO XT Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
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Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 15 working days
Welcome Book
PCSpecialist Welcome Book - United Kingdom & Republic of Ireland
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[Bigfoot]

You would almost certainly be better off with an AMD CPU, such as the 5900x. Puget Systems recommends AMD 5000 CPUs for Solidworks. To see why we recommend AMD over Intel, read this https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/forums/threads/amd-vs-intel.72675/

There are a few other areas that could be optimised, but the CPU needs to be finalised first.

 

[loso64]

Please provide your budget and also monitor for guys to give you advice.

 

[ChrDoy]

Thanks Bigfoot, primarily this will be a gaming machine. I typically use HPC's for simulation, the CAD element would be more as a nice to have for any hobby projects or if I want to run analysis locally on my machine so please don't base my build solely on Solidworks. I really wanted this machine to be able to handle any game I throw at it - especially flight sim and I've noted the 10900k's strong performance from benchmarks on fs2020. But I'm happy to be informed further if I'm misplacing trust in that processor for gaming and light professional work.

Maximum budget would be £4k Loso, current build is a few 000's under that and monitors at the moment are dual Dell S2721DGFA 27 Inch QHD (2560x1440) Gaming Monitors, 165Hz, IPS, 1ms. However with this build I plan on upgrading to 4k monitors at some point soon after delivery.

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Thanks!

 

[sck451]

Here is an equivalently priced AMD build. Given the work you're doing, I've gone full-bore and suggested the 5950X with its sixteen cores. Others suggest the Crosshair motherboard with this, but my research suggests there is very little difference between it and the Strix, unless you want the extra features it provides, which I don't think you do (unless you're planning to run dual GPUs at some point). I'm also suggesting you can improve your storage situation considerably with dual M.2 drives (really there's no place for SATA SSDs any more given the tiny price difference and enormous speed difference). I've suggested a hard drive as well, but you may want to lose this depending on your preference.

The 3080 Ti is probably overkill unless you're going for 4K 144Hz -- but you are talking about MSFS, so it's justifiable, I guess. I'm not sure how well Solidworks works with gaming GPUs now...

I'm suggesting the H115i cooler as the difference with the H150i is so minimal and being able to top-mount it is such an improvement. I'm also suggesting the awesome 5000X case rather than the BeQuiet one, but that's of course a question of preference. Finally I've upgraded your WiFi card!

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 5000X RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16 Core CPU (3.4GHz-4.9GHz/72MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 Ti - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
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Build Time
Standard Build - Subject to stock availability on pre-order products
Price: £3,555.00 including VAT and Delivery
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[loso64]

Here is an equivalently priced AMD build. Given the work you're doing, I've gone full-bore and suggested the 5950X with its sixteen cores. Others suggest the Crosshair motherboard with this, but my research suggests there is very little difference between it and the Strix, unless you want the extra features it provides, which I don't think you do (unless you're planning to run dual GPUs at some point). I'm also suggesting you can improve your storage situation considerably with dual M.2 drives (really there's no place for SATA SSDs any more given the tiny price difference and enormous speed difference). I've suggested a hard drive as well, but you may want to lose this depending on your preference.

The 3080 Ti is probably overkill unless you're going for 4K 144Hz -- but you are talking about MSFS, so it's justifiable, I guess. I'm not sure how well Solidworks works with gaming GPUs now...

I'm suggesting the H115i cooler as the difference with the H150i is so minimal and being able to top-mount it is such an improvement. I'm also suggesting the awesome 5000X case rather than the BeQuiet one, but that's of course a question of preference. Finally I've upgraded your WiFi card!

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 5000X RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16 Core CPU (3.4GHz-4.9GHz/72MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 Ti - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
TIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI (BEFORE 2PM)
Build Time
Standard Build - Subject to stock availability on pre-order products
Price: £3,555.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/SPSwHg!Q36/

if you gonna go for 5950x i would suggest upgrading to Hero board, otherwise for 5900x strix is good enough

 

[sck451]

if you gonna go for 5950x i would suggest upgrading to Hero board, otherwise for 5900x strix is good enough

As I say in my post, the power delivery seems pretty much identical, as does the VRM cooling. I'm not saying there's no significant upgrade, but it mostly seems to be in features, not in quality. Willing to be shown otherwise, of course, but I've not found anything!

 

[ChrDoy]

Looks like an awesome build SCK, I'm already considering changing my configuration right now lol. I was always under the illusion that the 10900k was the processor of choice but reading the above forum link from bigfoot and general googling it really does look like the smart money is on the 5950X. I had previously used cpu benchmark for confidence on the 10900k but it looks to be misplaced.

For the additional money I would probably go for the hero board for the additional features if ever required. However when including the hero build the configurator doesn't allow the addition of a Wifi card. I imagine it has wi-fi and bluetooth included to a similar standard that you suggested?

Thanks!

 

[Martinr36]

yeah the hero board has wifi etc built in

 

[sck451]

Looks like an awesome build SCK, I'm already considering changing my configuration right now lol. I was always under the illusion that the 10900k was the processor of choice but reading the above forum link from bigfoot and general googling it really does look like the smart money is on the 5950X. I had previously used cpu benchmark for confidence on the 10900k but it looks to be misplaced.

For the additional money I would probably go for the hero board for the additional features if ever required. However when including the hero build the configurator doesn't allow the addition of a Wifi card. I imagine it has wi-fi and bluetooth included to a similar standard that you suggested?

Thanks!

Yeah, no harm in doing that whatsoever. I believe it is the exact same WiFi chip, just baked into the motherboard instead of a PCIe card.

 

[loso64]

As I say in my post, the power delivery seems pretty much identical, as does the VRM cooling. I'm not saying there's no significant upgrade, but it mostly seems to be in features, not in quality. Willing to be shown otherwise, of course, but I've not found anything!

pretty sure Strix has two less power delivery phase compared to Strix, bit worse audio, bit worse capacitors, does not have CMOS reset. and has less ports.


It is small things, but the power delivery phase is in my opinion important for 5950x. For anything else strix is more than enough

 

[loso64]

As I say in my post, the power delivery seems pretty much identical, as does the VRM cooling. I'm not saying there's no significant upgrade, but it mostly seems to be in features, not in quality. Willing to be shown otherwise, of course, but I've not found anything!

ASUS ROG X570 Crosshair VIII Hero vs ROG Strix X570-E Gaming - Xtremegaminerd

The X570 motherboard lineup from Asus can be confusing sometimes if you want to choose the best motherboard for money. Going above $300, the ROG X570

www.xtremegaminerd.com

"The Crosshair VIII Hero features 14 true phases on the Vcore while the X570-E Gaming features 12 true phases using the IR3555 Mosfets rated at 60A on both High and Low side respectively on the Vcore side. So, the current support on the Hero motherboard is around 840A while on the E Gaming it’s 720A while including the VSoc, total current support on both of them will be equal due to 2 phases on the Hero and 4 phases on the E Gaming.

This theoretically means that the Hero will be better in overclocking high-end processors like the Ryzen 5900X although the E Gaming will be sufficient to handle these processors with some limitations on overclocking compared to the Hero.

Heatsinks on the Hero VRM are bigger and denser compared to the E Gaming which will provide better cooling and both of them are capable of handling strong overclocking with proper airflow inside the chassis."

 

[ChrDoy]

Hmm doesn't look like I can amend my order from 10900k to 5950x online, I may need to call PCS tomorrow to see if it's possible. I'm only 3 working days in processing so it's still very early days and cost is almost like for like.

 

[loso64]

Hmm doesn't look like I can amend my order from 10900k to 5950x online, I may need to call PCS tomorrow to see if it's possible. I'm only 3 working days in processing so it's still very early days and cost is almost like for like.

calling Support should resolve the change easily, or at worse you refund and make brand new order you aint the first nor last making change like this just give them a call

 

[Martinr36]

Hmm doesn't look like I can amend my order from 10900k to 5950x online, I may need to call PCS tomorrow to see if it's possible. I'm only 3 working days in processing so it's still very early days and cost is almost like for like.

yeah give them a call and have the quote number handy for the AMD system

 

[ChrDoy]

Will do, thanks guys appreciate the input!

I'll also change the case over from the dark base pro 900 to the corsair 5000x, looks like a nice case!!

 

[AgentCooper]

Just catching up with today’s forum activity, some solid recommendations from the clan on this thread. And for a little further info, here’s a sound bite from @Scott regarding the Crosshair Hero:

With regards to performance, it depends on your uses. If you're hammering multi-core usage then the Hero will allow more of an overhead in voltage regulation and thus should be more able to stabilise a higher frequency. The STRIX won't cause any issues at all but it might be a few performance points down in sustained load scenarios.

So the Strix won’t do any harm, but for the ultimate experience he recommends holding out for a Hero.

 

[loso64]

Small correction, based on this review the hero board has 16 phases rated at 60 amps that is 960 total. The board has also whopping 12 USB ports

Asus ROG X570 Crosshair VIII Hero (Wi-Fi)

Packing Wi-Fi 6 support and a heap of tweaker creature comforts, the Asus ROG X570 Crosshair VIII Hero (Wi-Fi) is an excellent cutting-edge AM4 motherboard for gaming and overclocking on AMD's latest-gen Ryzen CPUs.

uk.pcmag.com

 

[ChrDoy]

This is my latest build, I'll phone PCS tomorrow and hopefully I'll be able to change the configuration easily! Only £16 more expensive too so barely any change!

Thanks again everyone, really appreciate your help and I'll keep you updated with the build etc (hopefully a nice pic of the set up once complete).

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 5000X RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16 Core CPU (3.4GHz-4.9GHz/72MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® CROSSHAIR VIII HERO WIFI (DDR4, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX/SLI) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 Ti - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NOT REQUIRED
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
TIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI (BEFORE 2PM)
Build Time
Standard Build - Subject to stock availability on pre-order products
Welcome Book
PCSpecialist Welcome Book - United Kingdom & Republic of Ireland
Price: £3,643.00 including VAT and Delivery

 

[loso64]

This is my latest build, I'll phone PCS tomorrow and hopefully I'll be able to change the configuration easily! Only £16 more expensive too so barely any change!

Thanks again everyone, really appreciate your help and I'll keep you updated with the build etc (hopefully a nice pic of the set up once complete).

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 5000X RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16 Core CPU (3.4GHz-4.9GHz/72MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® CROSSHAIR VIII HERO WIFI (DDR4, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX/SLI) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 Ti - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NOT REQUIRED
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
TIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI (BEFORE 2PM)
Build Time
Standard Build - Subject to stock availability on pre-order products
Welcome Book
PCSpecialist Welcome Book - United Kingdom & Republic of Ireland
Price: £3,643.00 including VAT and Delivery

Personally I would do one tiny change, upgrade psu to 1k W just to have bit more allowance in case of overclocks, future upgrades and or running at better point in efficiency curve