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Ekans2011

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thank you- most of the games i play on my pc arent that demanding I've included my games list below I was thinking it might be cheaper to get the xbox series x second hand for the triple a games along with a better monitor for gaming. whats a good specs for these games to would £1500 be enough with a similar amout ram if not i could go down to 16gb ram & 2 tb memory want to look at all my options to see what works best for me
So your real budget is £1500? What's the point of stating £2000-2500 if it's not the correct one? :unsure:

Anyway, at £1500-1600, you can only get a 1080p system, and the maximum recommended monitor size is 24" to maintain an acceptable level of quality at such low resolution.
 
So your real budget is £1500? What's the point of stating £2000-2500 if it's not the correct one? :unsure:

Anyway, at £1500-1600, you can only get a 1080p system, and the maximum recommended monitor size is 24" to maintain an acceptable level of quality at such low resolution.
Not really just trying to see if it’d better value for money to go for a lower spec pc which can run the games I usually play on pc & get the Xbox series x for tripple a games or get better specs on the new pc so I can play those tripple a games on pc since I need to replace my old one anyway. I can’t afford to get the series x, a dedicated PC for gaming plus new monitor if I go for series x now I’d have to lower my budget for the new pc
 

Ekans2011

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Not really just trying to see if it’d better value for money to go for a lower spec pc which can run the games I usually play on pc & get the Xbox series x for tripple a games or get better specs on the new pc so I can play those tripple a games on pc since I need to replace my old one anyway. I can’t afford to get the series x, a dedicated PC for gaming plus new monitor if I go for series x now I’d have to lower my budget for the new pc
Consoles and PCs are two fully different platforms that cannot and should not be compared.

Consoles are closed systems that cannot be upgraded or customised, and are designed to endure until the next generation is released.
PCs, on the other hand, are open systems that can be upgraded and customised, and, if correctly designed, can last more than twice as long as a console. Lowering specs on PCs will result in 0% upgrade capabilities, making the choice worthless, IMHO.

They are two opposing perspectives on video game experience.
 

Ekans2011

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As to the monitor question, 27" is the recommended for 1440p...however, 32" doesn't destroy the quality or anything. I used to play on a 32" screen and never noticed any issues with it..but I do sit 8 feet from my screen so it may be different up close
Yes, 1440p is still suitable up to 32'', resulting in approx 90PPI, the lowest limit before losing sharpness and immersion.
A 27-inch 1440p monitor has roughly 110PPI, which I believe provides the best overall gaming experience.
Of course, everything is dependent to the distance between your eyes and the monitor: if I sit at 8 feet (about 2.5 meters), I wouldn't see anything at all. :ROFLMAO:
 
Yes, 1440p is still suitable up to 32'', resulting in approx 90PPI, the lowest limit before losing sharpness and immersion.
A 27-inch 1440p monitor has roughly 110PPI, which I believe provides the best overall gaming experience.
Of course, everything is dependent to the distance between your eyes and the monitor: if I sit at 8 feet (about 2.5 meters), I wouldn't see anything at all. :ROFLMAO:

The URL you provide appears to be broken.

Here's a 1440p gaming PC that might pair well with this AOC.


Case
CORSAIR FRAME 4000D RS ARGB MODULAR
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5) - Better a 9800X3D for £100 more but it's out of stock at the moment.
Motherboard

ASUS® TUF GAMING B850-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, M.2 PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 7)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz CL30 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
16GB GIGABYTE RADEON™ RX 9070 XT GAMING OC - 2 x HDMI, 2 x DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB CORSAIR ELITE MP600 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 7000 MB/R, 6200 MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB CORSAIR CORE XT MP600 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 5000 MB/R, 4400 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ ATX 3.1, MODULAR, CYBENETICS GOLD
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR ICUE LINK TITAN 280 RX RGB HIGH PERFORMANCE CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NONE OR ONBOARD Wi-Fi (MOTHERBOARD DEPENDENT)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 9 working days
Price: £2,177.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/JcMGx95E
The URL you provide appears to be broken.

Here's a 1440p gaming PC that might pair well with this AOC.


Case
CORSAIR FRAME 4000D RS ARGB MODULAR
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5) - Better a 9800X3D for £100 more but it's out of stock at the moment.
Motherboard

ASUS® TUF GAMING B850-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, M.2 PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 7)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz CL30 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
16GB GIGABYTE RADEON™ RX 9070 XT GAMING OC - 2 x HDMI, 2 x DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB CORSAIR ELITE MP600 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 7000 MB/R, 6200 MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB CORSAIR CORE XT MP600 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 5000 MB/R, 4400 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ ATX 3.1, MODULAR, CYBENETICS GOLD
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR ICUE LINK TITAN 280 RX RGB HIGH PERFORMANCE CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NONE OR ONBOARD Wi-Fi (MOTHERBOARD DEPENDENT)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 9 working days
Price: £2,177.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/JcMGx95E8K/
I'm pretty confident I can redesign my setup to work with the corsair case but in the event i can't is there any smaller cases which would fit with these specs or similar specs (for reference I've included a picture of how my current set up looks) p.s i may get the god of war(2018) and God of war raganarok although not likely would these specs work with thses game my current pc is (H:37cm ,W: 18cm , D: 45cm)
 

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The smallest case PCS have is the Lian Li Lancool 205 mesh.....width seems to be the big issue and the Lian Li is only 205mm wide. Depth is less than your current one but it is quite a big higher than your current (48.5cm vs 37). You will find that a good percentage of gaming cases are tall.

Looking at that desk, if you were to cut out the bit of wood under the tower (and remove the shoes of course), you could sit the tower on the bottom....then use the cut out bit of wood to proprup the end of that shelf. That would give you the height needed...the only question would then be how much leeway there is for width

The smallest case PCS have is the Lian Li Lancool 205 mesh.....width seems to be the big issue and the Lian Li is only 205mm wide. Depth is less than your current one but it is quite a big higher than your current (48.5cm vs 37). You will find that a good percentage of gaming cases are tall.

Looking at that desk, if you were to cut out the bit of wood under the tower (and remove the shoes of course), you could sit the tower on the bottom....then use the cut out bit of wood to proprup the end of that shelf. That would give you the height needed...the only question would then be how much leeway there is for widtlooking at the dimension depth is 48.6cm on the
The smallest case PCS have is the Lian Li Lancool 205 mesh.....width seems to be the big issue and the Lian Li is only 205mm wide. Depth is less than your current one but it is quite a big higher than your current (48.5cm vs 37). You will find that a good percentage of gaming cases are tall.

Looking at that desk, if you were to cut out the bit of wood under the tower (and remove the shoes of course), you could sit the tower on the bottom....then use the cut out bit of wood to proprup the end of that shelf. That would give you the height needed...the only question would then be how much leeway there is for
The smallest case PCS have is the Lian Li Lancool 205 mesh.....width seems to be the big issue and the Lian Li is only 205mm wide. Depth is less than your current one but it is quite a big higher than your current (48.5cm vs 37). You will find that a good percentage of gaming cases are tall.

Looking at that desk, if you were to cut out the bit of wood under the tower (and remove the shoes of course), you could sit the tower on the bottom....then use the cut out bit of wood to proprup the end of that shelf. That would give you the height needed...the only question would then be how much leeway there is for width
I’ve asked my shoes & they refuse to move 🤣
But seriously if needed I (well my dad) can build a new one entirely set up tailored to fit it all in though we should be able to make it work without that
 
Consoles and PCs are two fully different platforms that cannot and should not be compared.

Consoles are closed systems that cannot be upgraded or customised, and are designed to endure until the next generation is released.
PCs, on the other hand, are open systems that can be upgraded and customised, and, if correctly designed, can last more than twice as long as a console. Lowering specs on PCs will result in 0% upgrade capabilities, making the choice worthless, IMHO.

They are two opposing perspectives on video game experience.
the recommended one is stillout of stock assuming it still out of stock if & when decide to go ahead is there another better one you'd recommed for similar price(under £2300)

i was looking at the AMD RYZEN 9's what diffrence would a processor with higher/similar 'GHz' & more cores but lower cahce make? dont really understand the diffrence between the three

Whats the diffrence between having 2x16gb ram Vs 1 x32gb ram
 
For gaming, there isn't a better CPU than the 9800x3D...if you really can't wait for them to come back into stock, then go with the 7800x3D as that was the gaming king before the 9800 released.

Gaming-wise, any CPU without the 3D cache is going to perform worse. None of your games would benefit from a slightly higher frequency.

RAM is designed to work in pairs...a single stick will lose performance compared to a paigreat thanks I'll ask ocs
For gaming, there isn't a better CPU than the 9800x3D...if you really can't wait for them to come back into stock, then go with the 7800x3D as that was the gaming king before the 9800 released.

Gaming-wise, any CPU without the 3D cache is going to perform worse. None of your games would benefit from a slightly higher frequency.

RAM is designed to work in pairs...a single stick will lose performance compared to a pair
Great thanks does AMD have an app to keep it's graphics drivers up to date like Nvidia does?
Not Sure what I'll do with my current PC when I get a new one I know someone who works with computers he wiped my previous PC when I got my current one(also from him) but he seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth
 
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SpyderTracks

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They do..it's AMD Adrenalin.

To wipe your PC when it comes the time, just download the Winodws installer from Microsoft and run that (and use the format everything option)...it will clean install Windows and delete your data off the computer. I did the same when i donated my PC to my nephew and he just needed to sign in to Windows to then set it up.
That's called a windows reset, it won't wipe anything, it will do a singular pass, industry standard is 3 passes for an actual wipe, with 7 being if you really don't want anyone to recover any data.

It can't do any kind of format as the drive is actually in use at that time, so it's simply overwriting portions of the drive, but loads of data remains intact.

The only sure way is a clean install.
 
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SpyderTracks

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I've deleted my prior post as it has been pointed out to be wrong....my mistake for missing out 2 words "onto USB".
That wasn't what was being highlighted, you'd stated it would give you the option to erase all data, that option only shows for a windows reset, weather you run that from windows itself or a USB is irrelevant, it won't actually delete any data in a secure way.

A clean install doesn't give you that option, it has a completely different process.

It's important to highlight this as when passing a system onto someone else, especially if it's being sold to a stranger, you want your data securely erased. Otherwise you can recover it with any off the shelf data recovery software like Recuva
 
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