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[Pauljenks]

Warranty is a personal thing, I wouldn't really go for the gold warranty unless you have a fear. Typically, as in 99% of the time, any electronic hardware issues tend to present in the first 3-6 months. The silver warranty has you covered for a year from PCS but all other warranties are still in place (Ie the GPU is likely 5 years). It's worth considering but I understand it's not a whole lot of money for peace of mind. I would just question what you're actually getting covered that isn't anyway.

If you really want to push the boat out and go for all you can then the RAM could go a little higher. I wouldn't run higher than 6000Mhz but you could easily get one of the higher kits and get far lower latency. I reckon in the higher end kit you could see CL28 without too much trouble. This would be the performance peak for RAM on AM5. it would require manual fettling so may not be worth it for you.

I've gone for the 32Gb Dominator Titanium 6400Mhz.
Will I be able to use amd expo to configure it up to 6400mhz in the bios as I read that ddr5 ram in motherboard is preset at 4000mhz?
Or will I have to enter the timings manually?

 

[TonyCarter]

I've gone for the 32Gb Dominator Titanium 6400Mhz.
Will I be able to use amd expo to configure it up to 6400mhz in the bios as I read that ddr5 ram in motherboard is preset at 4000mhz?
Or will I have to enter the timings manually?

Use EXPO/XMP/DOCP (it's probably hybrid RAM like mine for both Intel & AMD) - and you may find 2 profiles in there. Mine has 6400mhz and 6600mhz options, the 6600mhz one has slightly tighter timings but was less reliable and caused longer POST.

Base profile is 4800MHz with 40:40:40:77:117 timings
Profile 1 is 6400MHz with 32:40:40:84:124 timings
Profile 2 is 6600MHz with 32:39:39:76:115 timings

 

[Pauljenks]

Use EXPO/XMP/DOCP (it's probably hybrid like mine) - and you may find 2 profiles in there. Mine has 6400mhz and 6600mhz options, the 6600mhz one has slightly tighter timings but was less reliable and caused longer POST.

Cheers!

 

[Scott]

PCS should set everything for you anyway. When you get it if you pop into the bios you should be able to look at the pre-configured EXPO settings. Have a look at the timings and see what is available for 6000Mhz. You want to dial the frequency back to 6000 but have the timing as tight as possible. With 6400 and CL32 I would fully expect 6000Mhz with CL30 to be achievable, maybe even CL28 (Which is what I went for, 6000Mhz and CL28 on my 6400Mhz kit).

 

[Scott]

Use EXPO/XMP/DOCP (it's probably hybrid RAM like mine for both Intel & AMD) - and you may find 2 profiles in there. Mine has 6400mhz and 6600mhz options, the 6600mhz one has slightly tighter timings but was less reliable and caused longer POST.

Base profile is 4800MHz with 40:40:40:77:117 timings
Profile 1 is 6400MHz with 32:40:40:84:124 timings
Profile 2 is 6600MHz with 32:39:39:76:115 timings

That's quite unusual, I don't think I've seen that sort of thing before. Normally the higher the frequency the looser the timing is to help stability

 

[TonyCarter]

That's quite unusual, I don't think I've seen that sort of thing before. Normally the higher the frequency the looser the timing is to help stability

Maybe that's why the higher speed is not as reliable?

I suppose I could manually tweak it, but I don't think I'd notice much difference.

 

[Scott]

Maybe that's why the higher speed is not as reliable?

I suppose I could manually tweak it, but I don't think I'd notice much difference.

Definitely, it makes sense that it would cause issues. I'm wondering if it's by design or if something has been set wrong in the profile itself at the time of manufacture.

That's the first I've heard of timings getting tighter with frequency increase. What is the memory advertised at? Is it 6600 CL32?

On AM5 I would lower the frequency to 6000mhz anyway, anything higher and the multiplier misses cycles and you get reduced performance. Only way to get it back is using a multiplier higher than 2 where you can get proper instability and memory errors. Most tests I've seen 6000 with low CL beats out higher frequencies.

 

[TonyCarter]

Definitely, it makes sense that it would cause issues. I'm wondering if it's by design or if something has been set wrong in the profile itself at the time of manufacture.

That's the first I've heard of timings getting tighter with frequency increase. What is the memory advertised at? Is it 6600 CL32?

On AM5 I would lower the frequency to 6000mhz anyway, anything higher and the multiplier misses cycles and you get reduced performance. Only way to get it back is using a multiplier higher than 2 where you can get proper instability and memory errors. Most tests I've seen 6000 with low CL beats out higher frequencies.

I ordered it with the PC a year ago, before PCS were advertising the timings, so not sure exactly what it should have been.

It just says "32GB Corsair DOMINATOR TITANIUM DDR5 6400MHz (2 x 16GB)"

 

[Scott]

I ordered it with the PC a year ago, before PCS were advertising the timings, so not sure exactly what it should have been.

It just says "32GB Corsair DOMINATOR TITANIUM DDR5 6400MHz (2 x 16GB)"

Looks like good RAM if the stock CL for 6400 is 32. I would run 6000 at 28, similar to what mine is.

 

[Pauljenks]

I only went and upgraded the Zotac solid OC 5080 to Gigabyte Windforce OC. That is definitely the last time I'm amending it. The Zotac 5080 Solid OC was pre-order so I guess it would have taken my pc longer to have been built? My final final build lol


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[Pauljenks]

No sure if you noticed when I posted about it before but you can save about £60 by switching to the slightly slower Corsair 4TB drive with no real performance loss as game drives don't need to be mega fast.

Year I did notice that but decided to stick with it. Since most of the build is about performance anyway

 

[Scott]

Monster build. Along with the drive you could lower the PSU to the new 1000W ATX3 offering to save some cash. That would make a decent dent in the costs.

The 1200w is worth sticking with if you're thinking top tier down the line. The 1000w will cover everything in the market just now but don't know what's next. Might merit the 1200w for top end.

Not so long ago I would have laughed at suggesting 1200w would become the norm, it's where we are at now though. Bonkers.

 

[Pauljenks]

This is my third pcs computer so I thought this time I'd get a top spec pc with upgradability for the future CPU and GPU. Maybe another 32MB ram. Who knows what ram requirements are in 5 years?
My last computer was bought 8 years ago and up until a few months ago I had a 1080p monitor.
I'm now playing 1440p games on it with a new monitor albeit at medium or slightly lower settings lol. Arguably the gtx 1080 is the best card able to still play games 8 years later lol.

 

[SpyderTracks]

This is my third pcs computer so I thought this time I'd get a top spec pc with upgradability for the future CPU and GPU. Maybe another 32MB ram. Who knows what ram requirements are in 5 years? My last computer was bought 8 years ago and I'm playing now playing 1440p games on it with a new monitor albeit at medium settings lol. Arguably the gtx 1080 is the best card able to still play games 8 years later lol.

It's taken about 15 years for gaming to go from 16Gb requirement up to around 24Gb now. It will take another good 10 years before we start needing over 32Gb I'm guessing, I don't think it will be in the lifetime of the current gen platforms.

 

[Pauljenks]

It's taken about 15 years for gaming to go from 16Gb requirement up to around 24Gb now. It will take another good 10 years before we start needing over 32Gb I'm guessing, I don't think it will be in the lifetime of the current gen platforms.

Fair enough. What about the CPU and GPU. My build has a 98003xd and a 5080. Say 5-7 years at least before needing upgrade?

 

[SpyderTracks]

Fair enough. What about the CPU and GPU. My build has a 98003xd and a 5080. Say 5-7 years at least before needing upgrade?

CPU around 10 years, but you'll have the option to upgrade it down the line should you wish to.

GPU, doesn't matter what you buy now, it's the first bottleneck, that will need replacing in 3 or 4 years. You don't have any option about that, that's simply how PC gaming works, with each new GPU launch, developers will then target the new performance and technologies that present, so games require more power at the same resolution.

Also games like Fortnite or World of Warcraft, games like that, they're often having graphics engine updates, so the specs required now won't be the same as in the future.

That's the whole point of a custom PC, is that the platform is built strong enough to support upgrades like the GPU.