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MiSJAH

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Already ordered but happy to hear/read comments.

How are the freebie games claimed?

(Also, anyone know what Clevo model this is?)

Cheers!
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

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Clevo chassis listed https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/clevo-laptops/40/

What are you using it for?

The 2 SSDs seem suboptimal, certainly for gaming. What's the idea, RAID? Waste of M.2 slots versus just a single 1TB drive for no real performance advantage and double your chances of failure.

Longer warranty and dead pixel guarantee would be on my lists personally.
 
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Tony1044

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Oussebon said:
Clevo chassis listed https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/clevo-laptops/40/

What are you using it for?

The 2 SSDs seem suboptimal, certainly for gaming. What's the idea, RAID? Waste of M.2 slots versus just a single 1TB drive for no real performance advantage and double your chances of failure.

Longer warranty and dead pixel guarantee would be on my lists personally.
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Agree with Oussebon here - you can stripe two SSD's and get better performance than a single one but that has no data integrity if one fails. In that scenario you lose the lot.

You can mirror them and you gain some read performance because you are reading from two sources, but you lose some write performance as the RAID has to do some maths, but you also lose half the capacity as basically the same data is copied onto both SSD's.

The RAID capabilities in desktop and laptop controllers is not usually that great, either - no RAM cache, no battery backup etc (though without the former, the latter is unnecessary of course).

Since you have a 5TB external disk you have a decent place for backing up your important data. You might also want to consider one of the cloud options such as Dropbox or One Drive as well just for extra, off-site reliability.
 
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MiSJAH

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Oussebon said:
Clevo chassis listed https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/clevo-laptops/40/

What are you using it for?

The 2 SSDs seem suboptimal, certainly for gaming. What's the idea, RAID? Waste of M.2 slots versus just a single 1TB drive for no real performance advantage and double your chances of failure.

Longer warranty and dead pixel guarantee would be on my lists personally.
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Tony1044 said:
Agree with Oussebon here - you can stripe two SSD's and get better performance than a single one but that has no data integrity if one fails. In that scenario you lose the lot.

You can mirror them and you gain some read performance because you are reading from two sources, but you lose some write performance as the RAID has to do some maths, but you also lose half the capacity as basically the same data is copied onto both SSD's.

The RAID capabilities in desktop and laptop controllers is not usually that great, either - no RAM cache, no battery backup etc (though without the former, the latter is unnecessary of course).

Since you have a 5TB external disk you have a decent place for backing up your important data. You might also want to consider one of the cloud options such as Dropbox or One Drive as well just for extra, off-site reliability.
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SSD's will be RAID 1, not 0.

I have a 4TB SATA SSD for storage.

Will be used mainly for gaming/media/work.

Thanks for the info. :)
 
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MiSJAH

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big3y3s said:
I spoke with PCS the other day regarding the Freebie games and how to access them.
Apparently once your laptop has been dispatched and assuming it contains a qualifying GPU/CPU you should get a link to download the game .
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Nice one.


Ordered today. Hopefully will be here within in a week.:taz:
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

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RAID 1 is pointless and a waste of money/M.2 slots for the uses you've described. Far better to get a single 1TB SSD, then use software to create regular images and/or backups of data. Or stick to a single 500gb SSD if that's all you want, and save the difference or spend it on external backups.

RAID as a backup strategy isn't really very good, because if something bad happens to your data / OS on one drive, the other copy has got it too. So versioned backups of data/system images to external media seems smarter.
 
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MiSJAH

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Oussebon said:
RAID 1 is pointless and a waste of money/M.2 slots for the uses you've described. Far better to get a single 1TB SSD, then use software to create regular images and/or backups of data. Or stick to a single 500gb SSD if that's all you want, and save the difference or spend it on external backups.

RAID as a backup strategy isn't really very good, because if something bad happens to your data / OS on one drive, the other copy has got it too. So versioned backups of data/system images to external media seems smarter.
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RAID1 is an immediate solution if a single drive fails.

5TB external will hold versioned/incremental backups, work EMC SAN will replicate everything on the external.
 
ubuysa

ubuysa

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MiSJAH said:
RAID1 is an immediate solution if a single drive fails.
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True. But it's also a complete waste of money (on an expensive SSD) if it doesn't fail. But if you get data corruption on one drive you'll get it on the other too, if you get ransomware encryption on one drive you'll get it on the other too.

I agree with Oussebon, it makes little sense in a one-off home PC. In a massive server farm with large disk arrays RAID makes more sense. In a home PC, having two expensive SSDs in a RAID array makes poor economic sense and offers no more resilience that a proper backup strategy would do.
 
SpyderTracks

SpyderTracks

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Raif is an ancient and redundant technology imho. There are very few circumstances where it’s practice in this day and age. A NAS drive makes much more sense.
 
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Tony1044

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It depends on the use case - servers etc it makes sense but my raid cards (which came in the second hand server) cost over a grand a pop and have massive throughout backed off to a gig of battery backed flash.

In a desktop or latop, though, I totally agree.

You're better off using the money on one drive and getting differential saves with rollback, in my opinion.
 
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