Upgrading my old PCS rig to a new PCS Rig

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Dxryl

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Case
PCS PRISM TG WHITE ARGB MID TOWER CASE
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AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
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ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6)
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32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
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16GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4070 Ti SUPER - HDMI, DP, LHR
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NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti / RX 7700 XT AND ABOVE)
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1TB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 6500MB/sW)
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2TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 3325MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMe SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 360 Series ARGB High Performance Liquid Cooler
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ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
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Any recommendations to change?

Looking a machine that will run most games stable and good along with occasional streaming mainly play survival games, extraction shooters, GTA RP and MMOs. This is based of a build that did have the AMD 7900 in it but I wish to stay with a nvidia card

EDIT: My budget is around 2200 pounds
 
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Dxryl said:
It's their by default and would get removed before purchasing, windows defender is good enough for me :)
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You'd be surprised the number of folks who don't remove it, and then suffer with the problems it causes, which is why when spotted in a spec its advised to remove, and yes defender does a great job at a great price(y)
 
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SpyderTracks said:
That’s not showing as a model, are you sure that’s correct? Have you got a link to it?
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This monitor here for main display

Martinr36 said:
You'd be surprised the number of folks who don't remove it, and then suffer with the problems it causes, which is why when spotted in a spec its advised to remove, and yes defender does a great job at a great price(y)
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Appreciate ya bud
 
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Dxryl

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SpyderTracks said:
That monitor is going to quite severely restrict any modern build, would be worth thinking about upgrading that, technology has moved on so fast, the refresh rate is going to bottleneck any system at 1440p
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Yeah upgrading the monitor is on the to do list but just putting priority on the rig itself
 
SpyderTracks

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Dxryl said:
Yeah upgrading the monitor is on the to do list but just putting priority on the rig itself
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Yeah, absolutely.

There are a couple of areas that needed increasing to get what you'd posted up to par, this is it reconfigured, it's slightly over budget, but you'd be heavily compromising on important areas that would affect performance and upgradeability (case, cooling and PSU) if you didn't.

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 4000X RGB TEMPERED GLASS MID-TOWER ATX CASE - WHITE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
16GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4070 Ti SUPER - HDMI, DP, LHR
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti / RX 7700 XT AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 6500MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 3325MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ - MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR H100x RGB ELITE HIGH PERFORMANCE CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
LED Lighting
2 x 50cm ARGB LED Strip
Extra Case Fans
1 x 120mm PCS Black Case Fan
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
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Price: £2,252.00 including VAT and Delivery

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Dxryl

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SpyderTracks said:
Yeah, absolutely.

There are a couple of areas that needed increasing to get what you'd posted up to par, this is it reconfigured, it's slightly over budget, but you'd be heavily compromising on important areas that would affect performance and upgradeability (case, cooling and PSU) if you didn't.

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 4000X RGB TEMPERED GLASS MID-TOWER ATX CASE - WHITE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
16GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4070 Ti SUPER - HDMI, DP, LHR
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti / RX 7700 XT AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 6500MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 3325MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ - MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR H100x RGB ELITE HIGH PERFORMANCE CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
LED Lighting
2 x 50cm ARGB LED Strip
Extra Case Fans
1 x 120mm PCS Black Case Fan
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
SATURDAY DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (BEFORE 2PM)
Build Time
FAST TRACK 5 WORKING DAY DISPATCH
Price: £2,252.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/MMdPnRs4aF/
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It's funny I was making some changes to the build itself and I changed the CPU cooler to the corsair H100x but didn't change power supply but with these changes I am happy and I have ordered it today :)
 
SpyderTracks

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Dxryl said:
It's funny I was making some changes to the build itself and I changed the CPU cooler to the corsair H100x but didn't change power supply but with these changes I am happy and I have ordered it today :)
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You understand that not upgrading the GPU means you may have to completely replace it (which basically means a full system rebuild) when it comes to upgrading the GPU?

It's not worth scrimping on the PSU, it's often overlooked and is incredibly important to the build.
 
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Dxryl

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SpyderTracks said:
You understand that not upgrading the GPU means you may have to completely replace it (which basically means a full system rebuild) when it comes to upgrading the GPU?

It's not worth scrimping on the PSU, it's often overlooked and is incredibly important to the build.
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Sorry my current build is a 2060 SUPER which I am now upgrading to this unit as you posted, are you saying I would not be able to replace the GPU in this build or upgrade?

I am hoping the machine itself with get 3-4 years just like this 2060 SUPER rig has gotten and probably going to be my last and biggest upgrade for a very long time! recently married and talks of kids are coming about so I may have to be buying them consoles or computers instead lol!
 
SpyderTracks

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Dxryl said:
Sorry my current build is a 2060 SUPER which I am now upgrading to this unit as you posted, are you saying I would not be able to replace the GPU in this build or upgrade?
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If your current machine is only 3-4 years old, why are you replacing it already? The whole point of a custom PC is that you can upgrade it or was it a cheapy off the shelf? For any properly designed PC you're looking at a 7 - 10 year lifespan with a couple of gpu upgrades in that time. These days it is nearer 10 years as you can significantly upgrade the processor.

You'd be able to replace it but you'd be limited to the wattage of the PSU which is fairly low. So you'd be able to replace it, but you'd likely have to downgrade the tier to fit within the 750W GPU as new cards will use more power at the same tier.

GPU TDP's have doubled over the last 2 generations, plus the recent reports are that next generation will use even more.

Plus with new GPU's you have to account for transient spikes, which the configurator doesn't, that's why the PSU was set as 1000W, that's the minimum you want to go at this level

 
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Dxryl

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SpyderTracks said:
If your current machine is only 3-4 years old, why are you replacing it already? The whole point of a custom PC is that you can upgrade it or was it a cheapy off the shelf? For any properly designed PC you're looking at a 7 - 10 year lifespan with a couple of gpu upgrades in that time. These days it is nearer 10 years as you can significantly upgrade the processor.

You'd be able to replace it but you'd be limited to the wattage of the PSU which is fairly low. So you'd be able to replace it, but you'd likely have to downgrade the tier to fit within the 750W GPU as new cards will use more power at the same tier.

GPU TDP's have doubled over the last 2 generations, plus the recent reports are that next generation will use even more.

Plus with new GPU's you have to account for transient spikes, which the configurator doesn't, that's why the PSU was set as 1000W, that's the minimum you want to go at this level

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The intel i5-9600K just doesn't seem to be keeping up with what I am playing, I get stuttering and input delays from CPU processing being like 99% on majority of games I play and I would rather at this point of age just go for a full new rig and pass this one down to my partner who will be using it for less demanding games.

I was hoping with this build that I do get that 10 year life span from it by swapping out parts if needed but I am not much in the way of upgrading/replacing what is in there and would rather upgrade the unit.
 
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Dxryl said:
The intel i5-9600K just doesn't seem to be keeping up with what I am playing, I get stuttering and input delays from CPU processing being like 99% on majority of games I play and I would rather at this point of age just go for a full new rig and pass this one down to my partner who will be using it for less demanding games.

I was hoping with this build that I do get that 10 year life span from it by swapping out parts if needed but I am not much in the way of upgrading/replacing what is in there and would rather upgrade the unit.
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I very much doubt it's the CPU causing a bottleneck, if it’s at 100% it’s because something’s not right, at 1440p theres no way the load should be that high, it's more likely the GPU (which was never a 1440p GPU anyway) and perhaps software issues. In my opinion, it's pointless replacing it, just troubleshoot it and correct it, that's the entire point of a custom PC.

But if you're handing it down then I guess fair enough.

But if you're buying a decent custom with the intention of upgrading it, you need to design it for those upgrades, and a huge part of that is the PSU, it's not worth scrimping on. A 750W would unquestionably need to be replaced which is a pointless expense as well as requiring a rebuild, in which case if you have the knowledge to do that then don't buy a system integrators product, build your own, you'd get far higher quality components.

But assuming your current build is suitably designed, you may get just as good performance plus be able to afford a proper monitor by just upgrading rather than buying entirely new where you'd still need a good £500 to get a suitable monitor.
 
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