Upgrades

lionwing

Bronze Level Poster
I am looking to upgrade my CPU on my four year old PCS Desktop.

The original spec included liquid cooling for the CPU. Would this be transferred to the new system assuming it is compatible with the upgraded CPU?
 

lionwing

Bronze Level Poster
Case
CORSAIR iCUE 220T RGB AIRFLOW MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS WiFi (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB CORSAIR MP400 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 3480 MB/R, 3000 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
1 x 120mm Black Case Fan
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

The planned upgrade is to the CPU & GPU. A Ryzen 7 5000x and a 12GB ZOTAC RTX 5070. The PC also now has 32Gb RAM and 4TB SSD's.

Thank you.
 

Ekans2011

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
The planned upgrade is to the CPU & GPU. A Ryzen 7 5000x and a 12GB ZOTAC RTX 5070. The PC also now has 32Gb RAM and 4TB SSD's.
I feel there are some concerns with the upgrades you propose: the Corsair 220T case can only support a GPU no longer than 300mm, but the Zotac 5070 is 304.4mm, and the 650W TXm PSU is insufficient to power it.

Furthermore, I don't see the benefit in upgrading your 5600X to a Ryzen 7 (5700X/5800X); it may only make sense to upgrade to an X3D to somewhat improve gaming capabilities with the 3D V-Cache.





What is the purpose of that PC? What is your maximum budget? What do you hope to achieve? What monitor are you currently using?
 
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lionwing

Bronze Level Poster
Thank you for the replies.

The configurator didn't report problem with the size of the 5070 for the Zotac model but I am sure you are correct.

The X3D makes more sense and I appreciate the suggestion.

Based on the size of my case (no budget to change it) and the PSU perhaps I should consider a RTX40xx?

The PC is primarily used for Flight Simulation.
 
Consider AMD 16gb 9070, it will give you performance a little above 5070 and the cards sold by PCS are below 290mm, power supply would need to be upgraded. If holding onto the PSU, is a must, of the 40xx range, 4060 (tdp about 120 watts), 4060 ti (tdp 170), 4070 (tdp about 200) prob the limit it trying to your PSU. My current rig contains a 3060 12 gb, again due to PSU limits. The 8 gb cards of 4060 /ti range are limited by them, and is some cases your 3060 12gb would actually run some games better than a 4060, which leaves 16 gb 4060ti and 12gb 4070. 4060 ti was really overpriced, for how much of a bump in performance you would get over the 3060 IMO. As for the 4070, much harder to get as Nvidia stopped production before the launch of the 5070. Also both nvidia 70 series card have that 12 gb limit, which on higher resolutions, is coming to be an issue. That 12 gb limit is one of the reasons even a standard 9070, was beating it in reviews, not just in overall fps, but 1 and 0.1 percent lows which affects the overall experience. Also with the 4070, nvidia played around with the memory, giving cheaper vram which did affect performance. You may want to consider the full fat 9070XT, with performance in the range of 5070TI but again needs an even bigger PSU.

When configing my upgrade I did listen to advice on PSU size and ended up getting a larger one than the one I initially looked at, because well what people said made sense.


This video is a bit of an idiots guide to PSU, It answered all the questions I had posted on PSU, as well as a bucket load had hadn't thought of.


TLDR PSU, above what the manufacturers suggest and the PCS config page states GOOD, for current build and for future upgrades.

Also the gfx card market is a real mess, at the moment, I managed to get a mid range 9070 card for a little over its original release price. I consider myself lucky, as for availability nvidia stuff appears to be a Jenson fever dream, rather than true launches. The 60 series launches may improve on that, but their AI focus (last fiscal year gaming was about 8 percent of their total), maybe not. As for AMD, they stock piled for 3 months for launch, but they blew through that. Seems like a scalpers paradise at the moment. :(
 
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