The Yodel Problem Thread. Post All Comments Here!

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PCS

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Good morning, afternoon and evening forum members. :)

For those of you who often visit our forums, you will have noticed quite a few threads complaining about our delivery courier: YODEL. Yodel was formed by Home Delivery Network (HDN) when they purchased the assets of DHL's UK domestic courier service. (DHL international still exists as a separate company).

Yodel is the second largest parcel delivery business in the UK and delivers more than 200 million parcels per year with a fleet of over 5,000 vans. That's alomst 550,000 parcels every day or 360 parcels every minute! (source)

As most of you know, the vast majority of packages are delivered on time or at least within 2 working days after dispatch. For parcels that are delivered on time, you never hear complaints from these customers, as they have their delivery and they're happy.

When things go wrong (and they do!) it can occasionally result in a string of subsequent events that can cause a lot of frustration. This can be from false carded attempts, mis-routed parcels, missing parcels and a lack of support from Yodel. As PC Specialist contract Yodel to carry out our deliveries, we are held responsible for these actions too and we are also in the hands of Yodel - shouting louder or "speaking to the manager" does little to resolve anything in a company of this size, and usually the best (albeit most frustrating) course of action is to wait for the package to work its way through Yodel's system. The usual response from customers who have not had the best service from Yodel is to complain to us stating that we should change couriers.

I'm sure the posts that follow on through this thread in the coming days/weeks/months will have some very interesting stories. However, rather than to simply complain - we want to hear your suggestions on how we can improve the whole delivery service. Changing delivery couriers will not solve anything, we have used different couriers in the past and they all make mistakes. At the end of the day "it only takes one bad egg to spoil the dozen".

So, in your posts tell us what we can do in future to improve our service when deliveries do go wrong, tell us who your favourite courier is, tell us if you think a choice on courier on our configurator would be helpful, tell us anything that can help, but please don't simply say "change your delivery courier".

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wayhav

Member
Hi
I think the choice of courier would be a good idea, i would even be willing to pay for delivery as obviously if you use more than one courier you probably wont get as good a rate maybe ? As i live out in the country, postcodes dont find my house, i have found that citylink seem to be the only delivery service that can find me, the others who cant find it either say i was out or just failed delivery. I have never ordered from you ( i intend to order a vortex 2 soon) but do you supply the delivery company with the customers phone number to call in the case of being unable to find the property.
Cheers
 

tom_gr7

Life Serving
I thought i'd throw in my two pence worth.

I collected my pc from pcs myself, as I'm only an hours drive away. But recently ordered a new monitor from pcs, yodel delivered with no problems the next day. I myself can't really fault it.

It may be a good idea for the customer to choose which courier they want to use. however, if that attempt goes pear shaped, then the customer will again blame pcs for choosing the said courier. Then you are back to square one.
 

benotton

Active member
As you said, changing delivery courier is hardly ever the best option as usually it depends on the location, the same rubbish drivers are more likely to cover the same areas and other areas might have good drivers from the same company, that's the issue with having a blanket courier service for the whole of the UK.

Without doing any research into companies who provide this, a few important features I think a 'specialist' company should want from their 3rd party couriers should be.

1) A working, escalation procedure if continuous failed / delays occur, perhaps a 'back up' courier who can deliver outside Yodel's time frames (so later than 6pm on a weekday and during weekends)

2) Drivers who actually have contact with their service desk while in the field, (whether it was just the driver in my case who didn't or none of the drivers do, i don't know)

3) The idea to choose courier at cost to the customer would be nice, as i said in point 1), different couriers are better in different parts of the country, I imagine.

4) PCS to have an 'out of hours' team, to deal with delivery re-arrangements or escalations/urgent issues (as Yodel will only change delivery information when speaking to their employers (and rightly so))

About all i can think of at the moment.
 

Serendipity

Enthusiast
Time will tell for me, I'll be getting mine Tuesday with a bit of luck, will report back here when it does.

One thing Yodel need to change is the colours of their vans man, it looks as if they deliver watermelon flavoured bubblegum :D
 

vanthus

Member Resting in Peace
Personally I can't see what else PCS can do,
they hire the best they think available & arguably they are,
other couriers have already been tried.
Not much help I know.
 

NMEBowen

Master Poster
As ive said with many issues you only hear the bad points because if all goes well people cba to post how well everthing went. Personally my Yodel service was excellent but that isnt always the case, smaller packages such as ram, gpu`s etc could be sent via royal mail for ease but who`s to say that issues couldnt arise from this. Other than handling your own logistics there isnt alot you can do so id say keep with Yodel and let the Trolls moan the majority of cases ive seen on the forums are not just yours and Yodels fault but the customers fault also such as not being at home when the delivery is made etc.
 

amc2004uk

Bronze Level Poster
As ive said with many issues you only hear the bad points because if all goes well people cba to post how well everthing went. Personally my Yodel service was excellent but that isnt always the case, smaller packages such as ram, gpu`s etc could be sent via royal mail for ease but who`s to say that issues couldnt arise from this. Other than handling your own logistics there isnt alot you can do so id say keep with Yodel and let the Trolls moan the majority of cases ive seen on the forums are not just yours and Yodels fault but the customers fault also such as not being at home when the delivery is made etc.

People that complain about Yodel aren't "trolling", they're complaining and mostly it's legitimate complaints, I'm sure a few have spat the dummy a bit, but saying they are trolling even in these cases doesn't fit.
 

Wozza63

Biblical Poster
i dont think ive actually seen a yodel van before ive seen loads of others UPS (look like armored FBI vans or something), DHL, Royal Mail etc but never seen a Yodel one

im gonna sound like an idiot, but do royal mail do a service for boxes the size of houses? or just smaller packages..
 

amc2004uk

Bronze Level Poster
In my case, there's really very little PCS could do to help my problem, but I'll throw the story out there any way and see what's said.

I got up early the day I was supposed to get my machine, I waited and essentially made sure I wouldn't miss the delivery.


Around 2pm, a van pulls up, hands me a fairly small box (The PCS welcome pack with manuals, cables and random gubbins), asks me to sign for it, I ask where the rest of the delivery is (It said package 2 of 2 on the label) and he said he didn't know and to call customer service, I do and they tell me it got put in another van and will be delivered later that day.

Around 5pm, still no delivery, they are supposed to finish deliveries around 5:30pm so I call and ask, I get told to wait longer and it will be here. I said ok...and waited.

Around 6:30pm was the latest he said for me to wait for, so I call again, and get told AGAIN to wait, he basically lied to me and said deliveries can go as late as 9pm.

Around 8pm I check the online tracking and see it's showing the package as delivered, again I call and talk to find out what's going on, a rather rude and unhelpful woman insists if it says it's been delivered then it has then hangs up on me, I call right back and talk to the first person who although she wasn't helpful really, did actually try to help, she looked up the tracking for both packages and put the one I hadn't received up to be traced since I hadn't got it yet, she said someone would contact me in a few days.

So, basically the only conclusion we'd came to is that the package is lost and nobody knows what's going on.

Next day..

I wake at 8am and call the depot that my package was last at, talk to someone who actually helped (Shocking I know!) I told her how useless customer service had been and she asked me to wait then went into the warehouse and found my package myself then got it sent out there and then, it was delivered about an hour later.

Apparently, one of the drivers had scanned it as delivered by mistake, not totally sure how, she didn't explain and I really didn't much care since I had my computer.

As far as this story goes, there's little to nothing PCS could do and although it was only delayed 1 day, a courier losing a package the value of this was pretty scary and their lack of customer service was shocking.
 
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amc2004uk

Bronze Level Poster
i dont think ive actually seen a yodel van before ive seen loads of others UPS (look like armored FBI vans or something), DHL, Royal Mail etc but never seen a Yodel one

im gonna sound like an idiot, but do royal mail do a service for boxes the size of houses? or just smaller packages..

They do, ParcelForce are Royal Mail's courier side of things for massive packages.
 

amc2004uk

Bronze Level Poster
ahh fair enough, i think ive seen them before, although not much

The two vans that delivered my computer never had a Yodel logo on it or anything, the first was a bright green small van, the other was just an average everyday large white transit van, no logos or anything.

Odd that.
 

tom_gr7

Life Serving
For small packages i have found royal mail special delivery pretty good. But i wouldn't trust parcel farce one bit.
 

tom_gr7

Life Serving
The two vans that delivered my computer never had a Yodel logo on it or anything, the first was a bright green small van, the other was just an average everyday large white transit van, no logos or anything.

Odd that.

thinking about it the drive who delivered my monitor was in a plain white van.
 

Wozza63

Biblical Poster
perhaps they had to cut down when buying the new vans? although that does sound a bit dodgy not even having a small logo or anything
 

Frenchy

Prolific Poster
thinking about it the drive who delivered my monitor was in a plain white van.

They often do this, either when they buy a new van for a fleet and it hasnt gotten round to be painted yet, or when they send a van in to be repaired, theyll just hire a van. Cheaper than constantly having spare vans in a fleet.
 

benotton

Active member
For the above few posts, as far as i'm aware Yodel sub contract to other freelance couriers who do work for them.
 

Corfate

Author Level
Mine was in a plain white van, but the driver did have a Yodel uniform on :) (grey shirt with green on it, Yodel branding). Had the same man twice as i forgot my wireless card and it got delivered 2 days after i got my pc, as i missed shipping ;)

Anyway, isn't this kind of off topic a lil' bit?
 

amc2004uk

Bronze Level Poster
For the above few posts, as far as i'm aware Yodel sub contract to other freelance couriers who do work for them.

They do, they call it something like @HOME delivery or whatever.

If it says that on your tracking, it's been subcontracted to a small local courier.
 
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