SteamOS

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Hopefully Valve will do a better job compared to PlayOnLinux (which does the same). I've personally given up on WINE a long time ago as I spent far too much time getting stuff to work, at times it felt exactly like fitting a square peg into a round hole.
 

SpyderTracks

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Major Necro here, but there is news that SteamOS is nearing desktop support and it’s really good to see a timeline of how this has gained traction.


This is at a time where Microsoft are not only losing a lot of favour as they‘re forcing AI integration onto users by embedding it into the OS which by the way is just a slightly modified ChatGPT, so you have no say over the data collection currently.

But it’s also off the back of a good year of headline outages for Microsoft in the cloud and extremely buggy windows updates and the especially catastrophic 24h2 update

With windows 10 going out of support in October this year, and a lot of people just not confident in the state of windows 11, people are looking for a way out of the Microsoft ecosystem

And Valve have officially announced a partnership with Lenovo and HP to support their new handhelds (previously windows)



Make no mistake, with this integration into non-standard hardware, SteamOS is gaining significant traction, and not just in the fact of Hardware support, but big manufacturers are showing their support for it over Windows


Don’t see SteamOS as simply a gaming OS which it may well start out as. See the broader picture, Valve will not settle for a poor user experience, as such they will make package installation far simplified at a GUI level where a lot on Arch Linux (which SteamOS is based on) is still command based.

IF their package manager is intuitive, absolutely no reason why other distros won’t integrate it like they have with SNAPS and Flatpack

And that’s purely package management, another area that Linux struggles with is custom drivers outside of what the kernel supports. With a mega corp like Valve backed by manufacturers like Lenovo, HP and dare I say it…. Dell, you start to have the possibility of either the Linux kernel being far more universally accomplished, or manufacturers releasing solid linux drivers, with valve again incorporating those repositories into their package manager.

And as any OS starts gaining popularity, even if it is simply for gaming initially, developers will start taking notice and purposefully target that platform, we're talking the Adobe's, Google's etc.

And Valve are generally extremely highly favoured for their support of their customers, they have actively gone out of their way be more targeted to gamers, they were the first to start offering refunds for digital products after a certain period. They've gone against industry standard practices with their terms and conditions. Gabe Newell (the CEO) is very famously a gamer at heart, with the release of the first Valve SteamDeck, he actually walked door to door delivering the first batch of them to customers.

People just don't feel this way with Microsoft anymore.


This is basically how Windows got its monopoly in the first place, Microsofts initial product was DOS which they agreed a licensing deal with IBM who were the global kings of the home pc space at the time, and as such the software had instant adoption of most home PCs and as such big support from manufacturers.

The potential here is HUGE, this is a defining moment in the pc era.
 
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TonyCarter

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...and the latest news is that Insider builds of H2-25 have removed easy access to the tool (bypassnro) to bypass the Microsoft Account requirements.


Looks like I'll be installing a LTSC IOT version at some point. Pity I need to be online for some games to work at all...otherwise I'd not have my gaming PC connected to the internet permanently...just connect, download, disconnect when I need to install a game.
 

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
...and the latest news is that Insider builds of H2-25 have removed easy access to the tool (bypassnro) to bypass the Microsoft Account requirements.


Looks like I'll be installing a LTSC IOT version at some point. Pity I need to be online for some games to work at all...otherwise I'd not have my gaming PC connected to the internet permanently...just connect, download, disconnect when I need to install a game.
This will only get worse as Windows 12 gains traction.

I think especially the bypass of installation without TPM support will be nuked out at a kernel level rather than being currently at the registry, although in some ways I do agree with this as I do expect that it will be a requirement for cryptographic support within the not too distant future, BUT, it should still be optional I guess.

I also think Telemetry agreements will be far more intrusive in Windows 12 directly down to CoPilot integration. If anyone saw DeepSeeks telemetry harvesting using online, it's ironic that everyone was up in arms because it was Chinese based, when if they actually looked into what ChatGPT or Llama capture, if anything it's far worse.

The reason I'm linking ChatGPT specifically is because CoPilot runs on GPT4 (currently, sure they will update that to 4o eventually)


 

TonyCarter

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I've always assumed ALL AI tools were scraping data from everywhere...even if they were promising not to.

Just like those VPN companies who promise 'no logs' and then give police the logs!!!
 

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
I've always assumed ALL AI tools were scraping data from everywhere...even if they were promising not to.

Just like those VPN companies who promise 'no logs' and then give police the logs!!!
This isn't specifically to you by the way, I know you know about this stuff and have the knowledge to protect yourself.

... the wonderful leak internally that Facecracks Llama was trained on pirated material, there's still several open lawsuits ongoing regarding that.



And herein lies the issue. People don't understand the value of data, there is a big reason it's the number one valued commodity in the world, far exceeding Gold. It's the value of what that represents over such a huge sample pool, the power that has over governments, foundations and entire countries and has been realised significantly in the west since 2015 just how badly it can be misused especially by the likes of Facecrack.


As long as we just keep willingly handing it over without concern or governance over who these companies can sell that data to and for what purpose, we're unfortunately fuelling global atrocities that are going to become more widespread.

Unfortunately the worlds justice and financial systems just haven't caught up with how fast technology has advanced, and we're seeing the damage this is having on places like the US, Hungary, Istanbul, Russia, Serbia, just to name a few, and the compounded issues this represents for countries connected to them in any way.


A friend of mine is Chinese born and came over here to live and married an old friend. She’s been UK resident for a good 15 years since she attended university here. She’s still extremely defensive if you ask her what the truth is about how bad the Chinese government are in how much they control peoples lives not because she disagrees, because she’s terrified they’ll be listening in over a smartphone or something and hunt her down. If she’s in a room with all digital devices powered off, she’ll be more open

This is exactly what’s going to happen in the US (it’s already started)

 
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