Serious problem reported, thread locked.

ubuysa

The BSOD Doctor
For the first time I'm dismayed at the actions of PCS. The thread at https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/foru...ave-killed-me-Its-ok-tho-they-are-sorry/page2, if proven true, is extremely serious and I think it's unwise for a PCS employee to shut down the thread solely on the basis that "This forum is not an official medium of support so we are unable to take this any further on the forum, I think it is prudent to lock this thread".

Those of us who are past customers of PCS are of course future customers too, and there is probably a vast group of unregistered potential customers browsing here to get a feel for what sort of a company PCS are. I certainly browsed here for several weeks before deciding that I could trust PCS. This may not be an official support forum but it's one of the most public faces that PCS has and closing down a thread with a complaint this serious looks like a cover-up even if it's not intended to be, and that does PCS absolutely no good at all.

I think there are three possibilities with the complaint in this thread:

1. A (potentially serious) mistake has been made by PCS during the building and testing of this PC.

2. The courier company (DPD still?) has badly mishandled the delivery causing the reported damage.

3. The OP has wildly overstated the nature of the problem.

In the case of option 1, PCS are human and humans make mistakes. It's ok to make mistakes, that's how we learn, it's just not ok to make the same mistake again. If there was a mistake made during the build/test of this PC then I believe that PCS should own up to that but also ensure that personnel and/or procedure changes take place to ensure that it never happens again. I have much more confidence in a company that admits and corrects its mistakes than in one that tries to hide them.

In the case of option 2, the courier company are human and humans make mistakes. Everything I have said for option 1 applies to option 2. If the courier company has damaged the PC then they need to own up to that and ensure that this never happens again.

In the case of option 3, the OP is human too and humans make mistakes. The OP was angry and dismayed after the frustrating build wait and he may have vented that anger when his PC had a problem by overstating the extent of the problem. If that is the case we should be made aware of exactly what the problem was, we would all understand if in his anger the OP overreached a little.

In my post of that thread I asked to see the photographs of the alleged problem and I still hope to see the photographs. When a customer complains that "unsafe wiring could have killed me" it's just not good enough to lock the thread and handle the problem behind closed doors. I for one am now left wondering whether this is a one-off or a systemic problem at PCS and whether I can have confidence that it won't happen again - and to me? Or is it perhaps just an angry customer overstating the problem and choosing an unwise title? If that is the case then we also need to know.

Had I come across this thread whilst browsing and trying to understand what kind of a company PCS were I'd have wanted to see the resolution. Closing the thread would most likely have caused me to look elsewhere. It's easy to see through the "PCS are slow", the "PCS customer service is terrible" and similar threads, but this one is serious. I think we need to see the photographs the OP took and if it does turn out to be a PCS mistake we need to be confident that it has been corrected.

President John F Kennedy once said that "a mistake does not become an error until you fail to correct it". I don't believe the best way to correct this mistake is to hide it.
 
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Gr4

Silver Level Poster
I will certainly be checking the wiring of my pc when it arrives, though i cannot see what could be life threatening apart from bare wires but, all the cables in a system have connectors both ends so there should be no bare cables
He probably had a gagging order put on him if it was a bare cable.
And he did state it was a wiring fault ??
Anyway it is something i would want to be aware of
 

moosEh

Administrator
Staff member
Moderator
Hi ubuysa

I cannot speak for "WhatCanIKeep?" as he is the PM shift Supervisor and he is not in at the minute. A complaint was submitted to him separately and he is dealing with it based on our complaint procedures.

As for the transparency, I can ask him to re-open the thread and post the images. I can confirm we are not trying to cover it up at all, so I am sorry it appears that way.
 

SlimCini

KC and the Sunshine BANNED
I'd like to see the images. Just to confirm what I think has happened. Or to be proved wrong.
 

Naiphe

Bronze Level Poster
I'd be interested to know so I can check my system when it arrives for the same fault....worrying :s
 

LFFPicard

Godlike
When I first read the thread I was going on the assumption that it was the fan cable not plugged in which is standard so it does not get broken in transit or when you first take the side case off to remove the foam.
To be honest I made this assumption solely on past experience and previous posts by the OP.

But, that's being said I am also interested to see the pictures to confirm if this is the case or if it was an actual issue.
Either way, good post Ubuysa
 

PCS

Administrator
Staff member
The thread has been re-opened. We don't close threads at PCS, this was an oversight.

There is nothing to hide, we will be making a post shortly.
 
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WhatCanIKeep?

Administrator
Staff member
I apologise to the OP and any other forum users, as I was dealing with this matter internally I locked the thread, however from this recent post it seems I made an error, so the thread will be unlocked shortly and my post edited :).
 
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ubuysa

The BSOD Doctor
Hi ubuysa

I cannot speak for "WhatCanIKeep?" as he is the PM shift Supervisor and he is not in at the minute. A complaint was submitted to him separately and he is dealing with it based on our complaint procedures.

As for the transparency, I can ask him to re-open the thread and post the images. I can confirm we are not trying to cover it up at all, so I am sorry it appears that way.

I'm actually trying to help PCS. :)

It's not good marketing to try to hide a serious problem such as this, or even to appear to be trying to hide it. I think it will do PCS much more good to be open about what exactly the problem was (that means photographs) and, if it turns out that a mistake was made at PCS, then to give your customers confidence that it can't happen again. If it turns out to be over-egging by the OP then we all need to show some understanding, we know how frustrating it is waiting and we can all imagine how angry we'd be to find our PC arrived with a problem.

Edit: I've just seen the original thread and the pictures. Full marks PCS for showing us those, they clearly reveal no problem at all. I'm sure the OP now feels a bit foolish but we all make mistakes, my dad used to tell me that "the man who never made a mistake never made anything".

I think the lesson for all of us from this is never to post on any forum (or send an email) in anger. It's also important to choose your thread title wisely......
 
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