Questions on hardware ans compatability with reasonably well established distros

dv8tion242

Active member
[solved] Questions on hardware and compatability with ...

As noted in the 'hello' post, my laptop is coming to the dying days. I don't need anything earth-shattering powerful, but what the laptop will be used for, does tend to eat up a fair amount of RAM.

If the following sounds like slagging off PCS products, its not intended as such. Before laying out reasonably serious (for me at least) I need to know exactly what has been ordered, will arrive and work. From reading comments this seems to be the case so all is looking well there. Even when there are (ahem) issues, they are resolved.

What will this laptop be used for? Primarily, this laptop will be as much of a "getting away from it all/changing environment", as much as work horse. I do a bit of desktop publishing and as I am not raking in the money from 50 shades of lameness the budget is limited. The hardware still needs to cope with documents and images. By that I mean this hardware can't just be a 'precious item'. The life it will leave will consist of trains, buses and possibly the occasional plane. It will be padded from reasonable shock but will need to visit real life. :)

I don't plan on doing gaming but will probably be processing largish images bouncing between 400-600DPI. The image processing doesn't take huge CPU time but can suck up memory pretty quickly. Quantity of memory I've found isn't as critical as quality. The amount which is being considered probably won't matter much but the quality of memory makes a big difference on hardware.
Being able to process large publishing files means there needs to be stability. Going by what I have read and seen about the laptops, the top running models are:

15.6" Optimus V From £620 inc VAT and Delivery.
15.6" Vortex IV LE From £750 inc VAT and Delivery.
15.6" Vortex IV From £910 inc VAT and Delivery.

The main concerns from people in regards to laptops in this range is derived from reading reviews and reading this forum: Fan noise, quality of the external shell, battery life, as well as the "AUO Matte 95% Gamut Widescreen" option's rather enthusiastic take on colour rendering.

There are some odd variations on the customization page as well.
Minor differences but "1 x HDMI Port, 1 x Display Port, 1 x Mini Display Port" when both models "1 x 15 pin VGA OUT port" clearly state HDMI "HDMI Ports 1 1 1"
Is there a second HDMI port or is there one on all the laptops by default?

Battery life is not a huge issue for me, but noise is.
Going to a café or library, means at least to me, no excess noise.
Reasonable quality of the screen is required as noted by the publishing.

Based on paper and price and images, the Optimus looks like it has similar spec, but less ventilation. This seems to be countered by comments about noise from the Vortex.

Will probably need a Win7 install for the sheer pragmatic side of things like lovefilm/netflix and values decent quality/cooling more than hardware. The SPDIF port, while great for sound makes no odds to me. The fingerprint reader is not necessary but could be useful. I think OpenSUSE dropped default support in 13.1 though.

If anyone who has heard both (or even one) at full whack, can reasonably describe if these laptops would be OK for use in the public arena?

Going onto the operating system area. Linux is not officially supported, fine. But there still should be (even as a sticky in the forums) a "what works and what doesn't". Saw a link to a pretty outdated and vague "what works with free software" site, but I think the mentioned Clevo hardware was from around 2006-2008.

[edited with shame, because only now have I noticed how incomprehensible the original post was(is?). That and the 'ans' in the title. Not exactly starting on solid feet as it were.
Sorry for amount of changes but it was just easier to replace a lot.
If I couldn't read it, why should I expect anyone else to. If anything else has been missed, I'm willing to correct stupid mistakes :)
Extra apologies to Stephen who managed to decipher some of the original note and reply.]

[edit: whoever moved this to the correct locale, thanks!]
 
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Stephen M

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Not sure you would need Win/ for Netflix, this distro (http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=08240) will cope with it, so would guess you could easily add the plug-in for other distros.

I have had no problems with my Voyager using any Linux distros, although Debian required some wifi firmware. I use a cooling tray so the fane is rarely on, although when it has kicked in it has not been noisy.
 

dv8tion242

Active member
Thanks Stephen!
Any info is appreciated! :) I doubt that having a cooling tray will be used while out and about, hopefully the out and about will be cooler than home.

Currently I am using 'buntu 12.04 on desktop boxes but will probably SolydXK for the laptop due to the extra apps and kernels.

The 15.6" UltraNote II (with the i7 4702?) Any good?
13.3" Optimus V 13.3" with the backlight keyboard doesn't seem to match up 15"6. Much like the 15.6" Vortex IV LE and 15.6" Vortex IV.
Is there truly any benefit to getting the IPS Panel Option and, or AUO 95? monitors?


I think the best combo for me so far would be the Vortex IV LE with the 'base' quad-core, putting a 120-240 SSD, and 8GB. Spec up the WiFi/Bluetooth. I think I sill have a copy of Win7 kicking around somewhere so I'll make it work.

The price listed below pretty much absolute limit.

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Chassis & Display
Vortex Series: 15.6" AUO Matte 95% Gamut Widescreen (1920x1080) (£79)
	
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Mobile Processor i7-4700MQ (2.40GHz) 6MB
	
Memory (RAM)
16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS 1600MHz SODIMM DDR3 (2 x 8GB)
	
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 765M - 2.0GB DDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 11
	
Memory - Hard Disk
1TB WD SCORPIO BLUE WD10JPVX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 8MB CACHE (5400 rpm)
	
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
6x BLURAY ROM, 8x DVD ±R/±RW & CYBERLINK SOFTWARE
	
Memory Card Reader
Internal 9 in 1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD: Mini, XC & HC/MS: Pro & Duo)
	
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)
	
Sound Card
Intel 2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
	
Bluetooth & Wireless
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® N-135 802.11N (150Mbps) + BLUETOOTH
	
USB Options
3 x USB 3.0 PORTS + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT AS STANDARD
	
Firewire
1 X 1394a FIREWIRE PORT
	
Battery
Vortex Series 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (5,200 mAh/76.96WH)
	
Power Lead & Adaptor
1 x UK Power Lead & 120W AC Adaptor
	
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE

Keyboard Language
INTEGRATED UK KEYBOARD WITH NUMBER PAD

Notebook Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE

Webcam
INTEGRATED 2.0 MEGAPIXEL WEBCAM

Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£5)

Insurance
1 Month Free Laptop Insurance inc. Accidental Damage & Theft

Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)


Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Quantity	1
Price for this Laptop:
£894.17 ex VAT.
£1,073.00 inc VAT and Delivery.

Our computers are far cheaper than the high street prices!

Click here for current delivery lead times.
 
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dv8tion242

Active member
Please check for use

Use: Primarily for moderate DTP, and image processing where a decent screen will be necessary as will a machine which runs reasonably quietly. Not planning on gaming, but being able to play HD video clearly.
Preferably, the budget needs to be about £1000, but can go a scratch more as this need to keep this machine for a while.

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Chassis & Display
Vortex Series: 15.6" AUO Matte 95% Gamut Widescreen (1920x1080) (£79)
	
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Mobile Processor i7-4700MQ (2.40GHz) 6MB
	
Memory (RAM)
8GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS 1600MHz SODIMM DDR3 (2 x 4GB)
	
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 765M - 2.0GB DDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 11
	
Memory - Hard Disk
500GB SEAGATE HYBRID SSHD Drive, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (5400 rpm)
	
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
6x BLURAY ROM, 8x DVD ±R/±RW & CYBERLINK SOFTWARE
	
Memory Card Reader
Internal 9 in 1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD: Mini, XC & HC/MS: Pro & Duo)
	
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)
	
Sound Card
Intel 2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
	
Bluetooth & Wireless
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® ULTIMATE N-6300 (450Mbps)
	
USB Options
3 x USB 3.0 PORTS + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT AS STANDARD
	
Firewire
1 X 1394a FIREWIRE PORT
	
Battery
Vortex Series 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (5,200 mAh/76.96WH)
	
Power Lead & Adaptor
1 x UK Power Lead & 120W AC Adaptor
	

Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
	
Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
	
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
	
Keyboard Language
INTEGRATED UK KEYBOARD WITH NUMBER PAD
	
Notebook Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
	
Webcam
INTEGRATED 2.0 MEGAPIXEL WEBCAM
	
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£5)
	
Insurance
1 Month Free Laptop Insurance inc. Accidental Damage & Theft
	
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
	
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Quantity	1
 

dv8tion242

Active member
While as noted above , battery life is not a deal maker or breaker. Being able to see the amount of performance vs power use gives a rough idea of what to expect. Even if it may vary from moment to moment.
All from http://www.cpubenchmark.net
7932 i7-4700mq 47W (quad)
7638 i7-4702 37 W (dual - n/a on this laptop model)
4892 i7-4600m 37W (dual)
4804 i5-4330m 37W
3416 i3-4000m 37W


On my desktop box with 12GB, I only ever see more than 10% used unless a virtual machine is running.. Even then, only about 50%
So I suspect that 4GB is probably OK as the cost to 8 is annoyingly expensive.. I don't think it cost that much to get 12GB of DDR3-800 (1300MHZ) a couple years ago.

Not sure I believe the "37 Watt" listing across the board, but oh well. The sheer numbers do make it look like the 4702 is the chip to get, even though it's not an option on the Vortex.

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Chassis & Display
UltraNote: 15.6" Matte Full HD IPS LED Backlit Widescreen (1920x1080)
	

Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Mobile Processor i7-4702MQ (2.20GHz) 6MB
	

Memory (RAM)
16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS 1600MHz SODIMM DDR3 (2 x 8GB)
	

Graphics Card
INTEL® HD GRAPHICS MEDIA ACCELERATOR 4600
	

Memory - Hard Disk
480GB INTEL® 530 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 490MB/sW)
	

DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
UltraNote Series: 8x SATA DVD±R/RW/Dual Layer (+ 24x CD-RW)
	

Memory Card Reader
Internal 9 in 1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD: Mini, XC & HC/MS: Pro & Duo)
	

Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)
	

Sound Card
Intel 2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
	

Bluetooth & Wireless
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® N-135 802.11N (150Mbps) + BLUETOOTH
	

USB Options
2 x USB 3.0 PORTS + 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS AS STANDARD
	

Battery
UltraNote Series 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (62.16WH) (Up to 7 Hours)
	

Power Lead & Adaptor
1 x UK Power Lead & 65W AC Adaptor
	

Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
	

Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
	

Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
	

Keyboard Language
ULTRANOTE SERIES UK KEYBOARD
	

Notebook Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
	

Webcam
INTEGRATED 2.0 MEGAPIXEL WEBCAM
	

Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£5)
	

Insurance
1 Month Free Laptop Insurance inc. Accidental Damage & Theft
	

Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
	

Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
 

Stephen M

Author Level
For most of the spec it is up to what you know you need but I would consider going with a 120GB SSD for OS and main progs for speed and then a second HD for storage.
 

dv8tion242

Active member
I'd love to. The silence of the SSD is great and saving on , but the 16Gb RAM, 120 SSD, and the 750GB HDD would be 1,188.00
From a purely performance/price/longevity aspect I think one of the Western Dig 7200RPM drives might work best until finding what the battery life is like.

Chassis & Display
Vortex Series: 15.6" AUO Matte 95% Gamut Widescreen (1920x1080) (£79)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Mobile Processor i7-4700MQ (2.40GHz) 6MB
Memory (RAM)
8GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS 1600MHz SODIMM DDR3 (2 x 4GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 765M - 2.0GB DDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 11
Memory - Hard Disk
750GB WD SCORPIO BLACK WD7500BPKX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 16MB CACHE (7200 rpm)

Everything else is pretty much the same as before
£1001

Thanks, Stephen! :)
 
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