Question about Optimus VII

[Frank of K]

Confusion about optimus vii DVD drive?

Does the optimus vii pro come with a dvd drive.... Most of my games are on disc, but I've seen some posts saying that it's just an imitation disc tray without any actual optical disc drive. Can someone clear this up?

 

[mantadog]

If you order the machine with a single HDD you can have a dvd drive, but default it is selected so it will come with one unless you remove it to allow a 2nd HDD to be fitted.

 

[Frank of K]

Would PCS be able to completely uninstall the keyboard backlight on Optimus?

Im not a fan of keyboard backlights, would PCS be able to completely remove this feature from a custom Optimus laptop? Yes I know I can disable the light but I'd rather it be completely gone from the machine if possible?

 

[keynes]

It would be easier to disable it or you could just uninstall the feature. You could try contacting them directly for an official response

 

[Wozza63]

I imagine it comes soldered/glued to the keyboard as a single item. Disabling would honestly be the best option even if you feel it's not ideal.

 

[Frank of K]

Does the keyboard backlight setting save when you turn off the laptop? As in if I turn if off will it turn itself on again with every reboot?

Also for anyone who owns it, how much of a fingerprint magnet it is?

 

[SpyderTracks]

Backlight answer is yes.

 

[Frank of K]

Yes it will save, or yes it will turn itself on by default? Sorry but its unclear lol.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Yes it will save, or yes it will turn itself on by default? Sorry but its unclear lol.

It saves the setting.

 

[Frank of K]

About to order an Optimus vii - Some last minute questions

Does the keyboard backlight affect power button LED or are they seperate?

Is there much difference between standard or arctic thermal paste?

How loud do the fans get when gaming?

And what is an m.2 SSD? I plan to install a regular SSD. Is the m.2 basically extra storage?

Thanks

 

[Rakk]

Hi Frank, I've merged a bunch of your questions together as there are all about the Optimus VII and are kinda related to each other

 

[mantadog]

I don't know about the LED's, but can have a stab at the rest.

The thermal compound PCS use as standard is pretty decent stuff, I was worried about bot being able to upgrade it when I bought my first PCS machine but many years later its still going strong. The stuff PCS use is much better than the mass manufacturers use in my experience. That said I would be tempted to upgrade to the artic on a laptop as they do need as much help as possible with cooling, it may only help by 1 degree or so but that could be the difference between loud fans or not.

The fans will be audible when pushing the machine hard, its a consequence of having power packed into such a small machine. They shouldn't be overly loud though and ive found PCS laptops to be more than acceptable when it comes to fan noise. Nothing more than a background hum in my experience.

the m.2 SSD is just another form fact for SSD's that's uses a faster means to communicate with the rest of the PC, the standard ones are fine unless you have deep pockets and want to pay for the super fast M.2 drives.

 

[Frank of K]

Thanks Mantadog, which of the following is more accurate -

1) More powerful GPU's, because they are more powerful, have to work less when running games and thus will have quieter fans.

2) More powerful GPU's, because they are more powerful, have louder fans because they are innately more powerful.

Let's assume that both of the above apply to playing vanilla Skyrim on max settings.

 

[aarpri972]

Thanks Mantadog, which of the following is more accurate -

1) More powerful GPU's, because they are more powerful, have to work less when running games and thus will have quieter fans.

2) More powerful GPU's, because they are more powerful, have louder fans because they are innately more powerful.

Let's assume that both of the above apply to playing vanilla Skyrim on max settings.

It would be the first. several reasons and to explain here's an example:

If you look at the specs for a 1060, 1070 and 1080 you'll find that each one has a higher base clock than the last, more vram, more cuda cores. basically what this means is a 1080 will deliver the same performance as a 1060 but won't work as hard to get that level of performance.

on the otherhand the 1060 can't cope with the performance output that a 1080 can deliver simple because it cannot achieve a high enough base clock, it has less cuda cores and less vram.

the 1070 slots in the middle of two.

Applying to your vanilla skyrim example. for arguments sake we'll say each of three cards put out 60 fps for vanilla skyrim.

the 1060 will work harder to achieve this has it will use the highest percentage of it's total cores.

the 1070 less and the 1080 even less still.

in terms of cooling the gpus what this means is that the 1080 in theory should run cooler as it's not needing to work as hard as the 1070 or 1060. whether or not you'll notice this or not is out of knowledge.

 

[mantadog]

It would be the first. several reasons and to explain here's an example:

If you look at the specs for a 1060, 1070 and 1080 you'll find that each one has a higher base clock than the last, more vram, more cuda cores. basically what this means is a 1080 will deliver the same performance as a 1060 but won't work as hard to get that level of performance.

on the otherhand the 1060 can't cope with the performance output that a 1080 can deliver simple because it cannot achieve a high enough base clock, it has less cuda cores and less vram.
the 1070 slots in the middle of two.

Applying to your vanilla skyrim example. for arguments sake we'll say each of three cards put out 60 fps for vanilla skyrim.

the 1060 will work harder to achieve this has it will use the highest percentage of it's total cores.

the 1070 less and the 1080 even less still.

in terms of cooling the gpus what this means is that the 1080 in theory should run cooler as it's not needing to work as hard as the 1070 or 1060. whether or not you'll notice this or not is out of knowledge.

It's a little more complicated than that IMO. I odnt have much time to type out the long winded answer so ill do the best I can in the time I have...

If you are comparing GPU's built on the same architecture (it gets complicated when you start looking at rebadges that are previous generation cards on the current generation naming scheme) then the difference should be fairly small when running the cards well within their power limits ( limiting the FPS to stop the cards working 100% all the time regardless of the screens ability to display more frames). The reason for this is quite simple, they are built on the same design, the higher performing cards are just the winners of the silicone lottery, they had more of the chip come out correctly so they have access to more cores to process more information. These extra cores require more electricity and that creates extra heat so when pushing hard you will have more heat output on a higher end card than you would on a mid tier card but if you lock both games to 60fps (and it can run fairly comfortably) then it should be roughly equal when using comparable cooling solutions. It is somewhat complicated by the silicone lottery again, some chips are just more efficient and will produce less heat for a given power consumption. Not all chips being the same physical side, different cooling implementations, fan profiles, overclocks and the like, but the above is a rough idea.

 

[aarpri972]

It's a little more complicated than that IMO. I odnt have much time to type out the long winded answer so ill do the best I can in the time I have...

If you are comparing GPU's built on the same architecture (it gets complicated when you start looking at rebadges that are previous generation cards on the current generation naming scheme) then the difference should be fairly small when running the cards well within their power limits ( limiting the FPS to stop the cards working 100% all the time regardless of the screens ability to display more frames). The reason for this is quite simple, they are built on the same design, the higher performing cards are just the winners of the silicone lottery, they had more of the chip come out correctly so they have access to more cores to process more information. These extra cores require more electricity and that creates extra heat so when pushing hard you will have more heat output on a higher end card than you would on a mid tier card but if you lock both games to 60fps (and it can run fairly comfortably) then it should be roughly equal when using comparable cooling solutions. It is somewhat complicated by the silicone lottery again, some chips are just more efficient and will produce less heat for a given power consumption. Not all chips being the same physical side, different cooling implementations, fan profiles, overclocks and the like, but the above is a rough idea.

fair enough. I no expert on silicone technology but to me logically further advances in gpu's would enable the more powerful cards to run the same performance but under less strain when compared to lower end cards of the same series.

 

[Frank of K]

Another question about this model..... when adjusting the brightness and volume.... is it "Fn + F button" or just one of the F buttons? I ask because I use these buttons in games for various things, and dont want to be adjusting brightness settings when gaming.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Another question about this model..... when adjusting the brightness and volume.... is it "Fn + F button" or just one of the F buttons? I ask because I use these buttons in games for various things, and dont want to be adjusting brightness settings when gaming.

Fn + f button