Question about laptop configuration

What I don't know is whether the selected AMD has any NPU capabilities and whether it supports CoPilot or rather Small Language Models similar to how the Ryzen 9 AI does when doing some AI developments locally (without internet).

In terms of specs, I'm thinking of going for

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Recoil Series: 16" Mini-LED QHD+ 300Hz, 1250nits, DCI-P3 100% (2560x1600)
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AMD Ryzen™ 9 9955HX3D 16 Core Processor (2.5GHz, 5.4GHz Turbo,)
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NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 5090 - 24GB GDDR7 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.2
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AIstone X6FR559Y (24GB RTX-5090, R9-9955HX3D, 300Hz QHD+ Mini-LED, RZ616)
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Price: £4,533.00 including VAT and Delivery
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Does anyone know if the AMD Ryzen 9 9955HX3D has any NPU capabilities? If it does, what's the TOP figure? Since the AMD site doesn't mention it, I'm assuming it doesn't have a NPU.
 
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Nursemorph

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If this article is correct, then there is no NPU, no:


Second paragraph is discussing this CPU
 

Nursemorph

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Just been reading around about the Co-Pilot side of things: Whilst I can't find anything specific about it, I have noted that the latest ASUS ROG laptops fitted with that particular CPU have Co-Pilot keys.....and, presumably, in order to have that, the CPU would need to be able to run Co-Pilot.
 

SpyderTracks

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Just been reading around about the Co-Pilot side of things: Whilst I can't find anything specific about it, I have noted that the latest ASUS ROG laptops fitted with that particular CPU have Co-Pilot keys.....and, presumably, in order to have that, the CPU would need to be able to run Co-Pilot.
No CPU has an NPU, a cpu is just that alone. An SOC includes a CPU, GPU and NPU all in one package.

Copilot+ systems I believe needs a minimum of 40 TOPS of AI compute, but copilot+ is a pure marketing gimmick, don’t bother getting one

If you don’t have an NPU as the Ryzen AI SOC has built in, the TOPS power would be from the GPU

The 5090 laptop card has about 800 TOPS. Obviously you need to have the TOPS availability suited to your workload


 
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SpyderTracks

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If you want to do proper AI workloads offline, a Mac Mini is by far the most cost effective solution for the actual AI workload, if you specifically want CUDA then the DGX Spark is more desogned for that, Nvidias version may well be cheaper, but ASUS, Dell and HP are releasing their own versions too, then doesn’t matter what OS or hardware you do the actual encoding on which opens up your options a lot more


 
Just been reading around about the Co-Pilot side of things: Whilst I can't find anything specific about it, I have noted that the latest ASUS ROG laptops fitted with that particular CPU have Co-Pilot keys.....and, presumably, in order to have that, the CPU would need to be able to run Co-Pilot.
Yeah, that's why I'm confused. Even the PC Specialist chasis has the CoPilot key. I'm aware that Microsoft will make this feature available in the future for devices with a Nvidia card so I've assumed it's either to future proof it or it's a generic chasis to cater for different specs. My assumption is the latter.
 
No CPU has an NPU, a cpu is just that alone. An SOC includes a CPU, GPU and NPU all in one package.

Copilot+ systems I believe needs a minimum of 40 TOPS of AI compute, but copilot+ is a pure marketing gimmick, don’t bother getting one

If you don’t have an NPU as the Ryzen AI SOC has built in, the TOPS power would be from the GPU

The 5090 laptop card has about 800 TOPS. Obviously you need to have the TOPS availability suited to your workload


I'm aware of this, and yes I used the wrong terminology. However, I'm not interested in the CoPilot aspect of it but I've seen some really amazing stuff being done with the NPU alone on windows. I'm still using my RTX4090 to do this but I want a laptop hence I'm trying to understand some of the capabilities of these components.
 
If you want to do proper AI workloads offline, a Mac Mini is by far the most cost effective solution for the actual AI workload, if you specifically want CUDA then the DGX Spark is more desogned for that, Nvidias version may well be cheaper, but ASUS, Dell and HP are releasing their own versions too, then doesn’t matter what OS or hardware you do the actual encoding on which opens up your options a lot more


Can't be mac as it is not supported for the research we're doing. Windows only.
 
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