New User - Need some advice

[Harby]

So, I'm a youtuber / livestreamer (I know... another one of these plebs right :sweatdrop.

Basically I need one simple question answered. All-in-one, or desktop?
I don't play PC games, but I use video and photo editing software. That's it.

I've heard All-in-ones are decent, but the problem is you're kinda knackered if something goes wrong.

Is there anyone here with experience of livestreaming / video editing (PS4 pro console) that can advise on what's best.

I'd likely be running Sony Vegas and Adobe Photoshop.

Cheers all
-H

 

[Oussebon]

The All in Ones PCS offer are essentially chassis for regular desktop (well, mini ITX) components. So in principle if the motherboard kicks it outside of warranty, you can replace that at a cost of £100 or whatever, rather than having to buy a whole new system.

Unlike say with a laptop where you might need to buy a new system if some components died. Or at least it wouldn't be cost-effective to have it repaired out of warranty.

It's possible other companies do AIOs that have laptop-like components in them where the CPU and GPU are soldered onto the motherboard and if it dies outside of warranty then you might be in big trouble.

Obviously if the screen dies on any AIO that's going to be a lot more inconvenient than with a desktop PC where you just go to the shops and buy a new monitor.

I wouldn't recommend an AIO for most people, however, as you're limiting yourself a lot more for upgrade and component choices due to everything needing to fit into what's ultimately a very fat monitor.

If you're video editing with that software you will probably want a GPU. In which case the only option PCS offer that has one is the Fusion Curve.

If you indicate a budget, and any other specific needs for the system, people can suggest desktop and AIO options for you to consider.

 

[Harby]

Cheers for the reply. Honestly, so long as it does what I need it to do, which is predominantly editing, cost bares no significance. I'd say I'd probably limit my spend to £2'000 as I don't think I could convince the other half that spending more than that on a PC is a fruitful endeavour.

EDIT:
Additionally, is there a major difference in AMD / Intel?

 

[Oussebon]

For an AIO your only real option would be the Fusion 34. This is very expensive, and is very limited for certain upgrades like storage:


Chassis & Display
Fusion Series: 34" Curved Ultra-Wide 21:9 Screen (3440 x 1440)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor i7-8700k (3.7GHz) 12MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX Z370-I GAMING: Mini-ITX, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1080 - DVI, HDMI, 3x DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1[SUP]st[/SUP] Hard Disk
1TB SEAGATE 7mm SERIAL ATA III 2.5" HARD DRIVE WITH 128MB CACHE (7,200rpm)
1[SUP]st[/SUP] M.2 SSD Drive
250GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3400MB/R, 1500MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated 2 in 1 Memory Card Reader (SD, MMC)
Power Supply
INTEGRATED ENHANCE 450W FlexATX PSU & 120W PANEL SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 340 Series High Performance Liquid Cooler
Sound Card
2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT + WIRELESS 802.11 A/B/G/N/AC
USB Options
5 x USB 3.0 PORTS + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT AS STANDARD
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
External Speakers
2 x INTEGRATED 3W SPEAKERS
Webcam
INTEGRATED 720P 30 FPS HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 13 to 15 working days
Quantity
1

Price £2,450.00 including VAT and delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/fusionii-34/8CmtErkeCG/

 

[Oussebon]

A similar non-AIO spec would be:


Case
FRACTAL DEFINE S BLACK GAMING CASE (Window)
Overclocked CPU
Overclocked Intel® Core™ i7-8700K Six Core (3.7GHz @ up to 4.8GHz)
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Ultra Gaming: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
---Get £25 Restaurant Choice Voucher w/ select GIGABYTE Motherboards!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1080 - DVI, HDMI, 3x DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1[SUP]st[/SUP] Hard Disk
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 32MB CACHE
1[SUP]st[/SUP] M.2 SSD Drive
250GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3400MB/R, 1500MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212X (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 13 to 15 working days
Quantity
1

Price £1,871.00 including VAT and delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z370-overclocked/Kp3mRhM4Db/

Plus ~£250-400 for a 4k monitor. You're not gaming on it so having a Gsync monitor doesn't matter, making your options broader and cheaper.

 

[Oussebon]

AMD's Ryzen CPUs are very good. The R7 2700x offers higher multithreaded performance than an i7 8700k.

However, the i8 8700k has integrated graphics that adobe premiere pro can leverage to give it a huge performance boost:
https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3310-adobe-premiere-benchmarks-rendering-8700k-gpu-vs-ryzen
So I'd probably recommend that on balance.

In terms of AIo vs regular PC, I'd strongly recommend PC. For the upgrade options, and because you can add things like a PCIe capture card like an Elgato Pro, whereas the AIO has no vacant expansion slots.

Also you can get the CPU overclocked as in the spec I posted above which further boosts performance, which could shave some minutes off your render, depending on the workload, etc..