New pc configuration

[Federico]

Hi everyone! I am planning to change my pc. This time i can afford something around 3500-4000 euro, and i would like a gaming centered build. I was Thinking about those parts:
9800x3d
5090 (when it will be available, i am not sure at what price i will find it but it's a sure pick, so i counted 2000 euros to stay in the build budget but i am ready to pay more)
x870e aorus master ( i like to tinker with overclock, but i would rather not spend 1000 bucks for a motherboard and this looked like a decent price to performance ratio, but if the benefits would be important i could go for something more expensive)
Corsair vengeance ddr5 32gb 6000Mhz cl28
Corsair 5000D airflow case
Corsair RM1000x
Cooler Master ML360R (just because i already have one laying around, if not suited for the cpu i will buy a different one)
Samsung 990 1tb and 980 500gb (that i already have)

I would like to know if those are good choices, keeping in mind i'm looking for the best possible performances even if not the best choices for price to performance, as i would like something premium with all the possible bells and whistles since it would be my first top spec pc ever.

 

[Scoped Badger]

Which monitor will you be pairing the PC with?

 

[SpyderTracks]

Hi everyone! I am planning to change my pc. This time i can afford something around 3500-4000 euro, and i would like a gaming centered build. I was Thinking about those parts:
9800x3d
5090 (when it will be available, i am not sure at what price i will find it but it's a sure pick, so i counted 2000 euros to stay in the build budget but i am ready to pay more)
x870e aorus master ( i like to tinker with overclock, but i would rather not spend 1000 bucks for a motherboard and this looked like a decent price to performance ratio, but if the benefits would be important i could go for something more expensive)
Corsair vengeance ddr5 32gb 6000Mhz cl28
Corsair 5000D airflow case
Corsair RM1000x
Cooler Master ML360R (just because i already have one laying around, if not suited for the cpu i will buy a different one)
Samsung 990 1tb and 980 500gb (that i already have)

I would like to know if those are good choices, keeping in mind i'm looking for the best possible performances even if not the best choices for price to performance, as i would like something premium with all the possible bells and whistles since it would be my first top spec pc ever.

Didn’t you only recently buy a system? If so upgrading would make far more sense, rather the point of a custom PC is that you can upgrade it

 

[Federico]

Which monitor will you be pairing the PC with?

I have an lg 32gs95ue, which i would like to use both in the 4k 240hz mode and 1080p 480hz mode.

Didn’t you only recently buy a system? If so upgrading would make far more sense, rather the point of a custom PC is that you can upgrade it

Well "recently" was around 5 years ago, and i specced it for 2k 144hz, i have a 5900x and a 6700xt on a b550-f and there is not a lot of room for upgrades. i could just slap a 5080 in it maybe and call it a day but since i can afford it and there is a new ddr generation i figured i would get something more premium and sell the old one

 

[Federico]

Hi, i posted the incorrect way last time so i'm doing a new one.
I want to order a pc with the best gaming performance possible in a budget of around 4000€.
I am currently using a LG32gs95ue monitor (dual mode, 4k 240hz and 1080p 480hz which i intend to get the most from both).
Keeping in mind that the sure picks would be the cpu and gpu (as far as i know they should be the best coupling overall for gaming), hoping to find the 5090 at around 2000€ when it will be available and using the nvme i already have i came out with this configuration:

Case
CORSAIR 4000D RGB AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE - WHITE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core CPU (Up to 5.2GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG CROSSHAIR X870E HERO (AM5, DDR5, M.2 PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 7)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair DOMINATOR TITANIUM DDR5 6400MHz (2 x 16GB) KIT
Graphics Card
NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st M.2 SSD Drive
256GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3200 MB/R, 2700 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1200W RMx SHIFT SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre European Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 360 Series ARGB High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NONE OR ONBOARD Wi-Fi (MOTHERBOARD DEPENDENT)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
Norton 360 inc. Game Optimizer - Free 90 Day License
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (6 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
4 DAY DELIVERY TO ITALY
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days
Price: €1.993,00 including VAT and Delivery

But i have a few doubts about the other components.
I like to tinker with overclock when the rig starts to get older so i'm looking for the best motherboard possible without breaking the budget, this looked like a good choice but i'm not really confident that's the best i could get without going too much overbudget, especially in case the 5090 will be more expensive.
I have seen different opinions on the ram, some people say that this cpu cannot benefit from more than 6400 frequency, some says it can and other suggested to pick the fastest ram anyway and in that case downclock it to 6400 in order to achieve tighter timings, so i'm unsure about what to choose.
For the cooler i would rather save some money and use this pick while i'm using the stock cpu then swap it for a more performant one later, or maybe i should go for a better one right away?
Will a 1200w psu be enough?
And finally, i don't care too much about how it looks so i went with a cheap option for the case but i don't know if it will be fine with the heat that the gpu will put out, so if you have a better suggestion is welcomed.

 

[Scoped Badger]

You seem to be spending more than you need to on some components and not enough on others.

Do you already have SSD's that you'll be adding to this build? You know you've picked a white case for a non-white build?

A few things I would do:

- Save yourself £250 and choose the TUF motherboard instead of the CROSSHAIR unless you need the extra USB ports & Gen 5 M.2 slots which, looking at your drive selection, you don't.

- Current RAM choice gives you little performance boost for an extra £65, while 6000MHz is widely considered the AM5 sweet spot.

- SSD selection? Seems strange that you've just picked the cheapest, smallest one available. Is that to stay in budget?

- CPU cooler. Use the money saved from the Motherboard and RAM changes to get yourself a decent cooler. Spending £4k on a new PC and putting an unknown, unreliable cooler in it is asking for trouble in my opinion.

- You don't need the Arctic thermal paste. If you choose a Corsair cooler instead, their thermal paste is superior.

- Remove the Norton trial. Walware that reduces performance and Windows Defender is all you need.

- Upgrade the warranty to at least the silver warranty, but in all honesty, I'd go for the Gold offering for £70 if I was spending that amount of money on a PC.

 

[sck451]

I'd also question whether you really want to overclock. You can get a bit of performance by turning PBO on, but not much, and graphics card overclocking isn't really a thing you need to think about any more. The headroom for overclocking is so thin now that it's really not worth the time, the power and the risk to the components.

 

[Ekans2011]

I agree with everything @Scoped Badger and @sck451 have mentioned; given you've selected delivery to Italy, I'd order directly from https://www.pcspecialist.it/.

 

[Federico]

You seem to be spending more than you need to on some components and not enough on others.

Do you already have SSD's that you'll be adding to this build? You know you've picked a white case for a non-white build?

A few things I would do:

- Save yourself £250 and choose the TUF motherboard instead of the CROSSHAIR unless you need the extra USB ports & Gen 5 M.2 slots which, looking at your drive selection, you don't.

- Current RAM choice gives you little performance boost for an extra £65, while 6000MHz is widely considered the AM5 sweet spot.

- SSD selection? Seems strange that you've just picked the cheapest, smallest one available. Is that to stay in budget?

- CPU cooler. Use the money saved from the Motherboard and RAM changes to get yourself a decent cooler. Spending £4k on a new PC and putting an unknown, unreliable cooler in it is asking for trouble in my opinion.

- You don't need the Arctic thermal paste. If you choose a Corsair cooler instead, their thermal paste is superior.

- Remove the Norton trial. Walware that reduces performance and Windows Defender is all you need.

- Upgrade the warranty to at least the silver warranty, but in all honesty, I'd go for the Gold offering for £70 if I was spending that amount of money on a PC.

Thanks for the suggestions, yes i do already have 2 ssds, samsung 990 and 980. I choose the cheapest one only because i can't make an order without some storage.
I was thinking about the Crosshair mostly because it can run ram at higher speeds than most (as seen in some benchmark videos), and have more tuning features i wonder if it could be better for futureproofing? But i will look into it more, it would be a good money saving and i have time to choose.
For the ram is probably better as you say going with 6000, at least for the moment.
So will you recommend a Corsair cooler? And can you recommend a good case for that system? I don't really mind the look, i would rather it have a good airflow and being practical.
Totally forgot to remove norton
Yes i will probably pick the gold warrant anyway, i just was not thinking about it right now

I'd also question whether you really want to overclock. You can get a bit of performance by turning PBO on, but not much, and graphics card overclocking isn't really a thing you need to think about any more. The headroom for overclocking is so thin now that it's really not worth the time, the power and the risk to the components.

I had decent results by tuning my bios following some guides, mostly for a latency cut than raw performance but i am honestly clueless about am5, so i would rather have the most possible features on the board in case i will learn something new than going with a barebone one like my actual pc.