New gaming PC

[tikky]

Case	FRACTAL MESHIFY S2 TEMPERED GLASS
Overclocked CPU	Overclocked AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12 Core (3.7GHz @ up to 4.7GHz)
Motherboard	ASUS® STRIX B550-F GAMING (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)	4GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2400MHz (1 x 4GB)
Graphics Card	NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st Storage Drive	2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive	1TB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 7000MB/R, 5000MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive	NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply	CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable	1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling	Corsair H150i RGB PRO XT Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste	STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card	ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card	10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card	NOT REQUIRED
USB/Thunderbolt Options	MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System	Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language	United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media	Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software	FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus	NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser	Google Chrome™
Warranty	3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery	STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time	Standard Build - Subject to stock availability on pre-order products (I did order 5 day build so not sure why this is not shown, maybe because PCS can't do it)

£1,451.00

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-overclocked/G3r0VtT5YF/

Opinions please on this for a high end gaming PC?

Let me explain a couple of things.... there's no gpu specified as I already have a 3090 to go into it from my current PC (4 year old i7 7700k).
I've only added the minimum RAM i could specify, reason being is that I have 32GB 3600MHz RAM from my current PC to transfer over, I will just ebay the 4GB.

I will be overclocking the 5900x so selected the best cooling they offered (RGB was £20 extra but i'm not really into that). I purposely selected a slightly beefier psu than necessary. Reason being when nvidia release 4xxx series card rumoured to be next year, I hopefully won't need a psu upgrade.

The PC is paid for, it's in pre production. Any ideas/thoughts/suggestions/would be great, I may update the spec while I can.

 

[Bigfoot]

Overclocking Ryzen processors can actually limit performance due to the way the CPU auto boosts. You really need a ROG Strix X570 motherboard with the 5900x, especially if overclocking. For gaming you won’t really see any benefit over the 5800x. You can always turn off RGB on the cooler. For gaming builds we usually spec a 500GB m.2 drive for OS and programmes and a second m.2 for games.

 

[jamiephillips909]

Personally would not overclock the 5900x also if your buying a 3090 you dont need to be looking at the 4000 series next year maybe the 6000 series in a few years not really cost affective to change your gpu every year

 

[tikky]

Overclocking Ryzen processors can actually limit performance due to the way the CPU auto boosts. You really need a ROG Strix X570 motherboard with the 5900x, especially if overclocking. For gaming you won’t really see any benefit over the 5800x. You can always turn off RGB on the cooler. For gaming builds we usually spec a 500GB m.2 drive for OS and programmes and a second m.2 for games.

I'm new to ryzen cpu's but the overclocking using the pbo seems very straight forward no, just a few bios changes? afaik it gives no penalty.
isnt the rog strix x570 just extra pci-e 4 lanes? i only need 1 for the m2. drive.
yeh 5800x and 5900x in benchmarks (games) is only 1 or 2 % difference but i do have a reason for wanting extra cores. most of my gaming will be microsoft flight simulator 2020 with a hp reverb g2 vr headset, msfs2020 is due a conversion from dx11 to dx12 very soon so extra cores might come in handy as dx12 is meant to make use of more cores.
i've specified the non rgb cooler, the configurator url link doesnt show that, same cooling but for £20 less.
ah ok i see what you've done with the drives, i couldnt specify a 2nd m2 drive (i dont think so) so i went for a 1tb pci-e 4 m2 drive for os and a few games and a 2tb 3.5inch for other stuff.

Personally would not overclock the 5900x also if your buying a 3090 you dont need to be looking at the 4000 series next year maybe the 6000 series in a few years not really cost affective to change your gpu every year

any links to how overclocking a 5900x might degrade performance? yeh good shout about the need to upgrade to 4000 series might not be prudent. i'd examine any upgrade path carefully, hopefully 1000W psu should cover it.

thanks for the replies guys

 

[SpyderTracks]

I'm new to ryzen cpu's but the overclocking using the pbo seems very straight forward no, just a few bios changes? afaik it gives no penalty.
isnt the rog strix x570 just extra pci-e 4 lanes? i only need 1 for the m2. drive.
yeh 5800x and 5900x in benchmarks (games) is only 1 or 2 % difference but i do have a reason for wanting extra cores. most of my gaming will be microsoft flight simulator 2020 with a hp reverb g2 vr headset, msfs2020 is due a conversion from dx11 to dx12 very soon so extra cores might come in handy as dx12 is meant to make use of more cores.
i've specified the non rgb cooler, the configurator url link doesnt show that, same cooling but for £20 less.
ah ok i see what you've done with the drives, i couldnt specify a 2nd m2 drive (i dont think so) so i went for a 1tb pci-e 4 m2 drive for os and a few games and a 2tb 3.5inch for other stuff.


any links to how overclocking a 5900x might degrade performance? yeh good shout about the need to upgrade to 4000 series might not be prudent. i'd examine any upgrade path carefully, hopefully 1000W psu should cover it.

thanks for the replies guys

As said, overclocking Ryzen reduces performance except for a couple of niche scenarios.

What are you using the pc for? You say gaming, so yes, a PBO overclock will reduce performance as you won’t hit any single core boost clocks.

 

[SpyderTracks]

As said, overclocking Ryzen reduces performance except for a couple of niche scenarios.

What are you using the pc for? You say gaming, so yes, a PBO overclock will reduce performance as you won’t hit any single core boost clocks.

The way it works with Ryzen, they have a couple of “healthy cores” most are average and then a couple of weak cores, the idea being that for most games or applications that require high frequency, it’s only only 1 or 2 cores.

With a PBO overclock, it will apply an all core overclock to the weakest core which will likely be the standard boost frequency. So you’d be looking around 4.4GHz on the higher end chips. Counterpart that with the 5GHz boost clocks available, and you’re missing a significant amount of performance.

AMD Ryzen 3000 overclocking and why you shouldn’t bother

Is there value in overclocking Zen 2? We push the Ryzen 7 3700X to its limits in search of the answer

www.google.co.uk

 

[tikky]

With a PBO overclock, it will apply an all core overclock to the weakest core which will likely be the standard boost frequency. So you’d be looking around 4.4GHz on the higher end chips. Counterpart that with the 5GHz boost clocks available, and you’re missing a significant amount of performance.

yes for gaming. it'll be used for some studying too but that will hardly tax it.
from this video

, ignore the 1st half where he goes on about overclocking manually, when he comes to overclocking using pbo @6.36, when he boots the pc afterwards he's getting high single core boost clocks from what i can see (he's hitting near 5GHz with pbo afaik).