My build spec

[Deleted member 103489]

I am planning on upgrading my computer for the end of this month.

I do lots of 3d rendering etc so do use the gpu's heavily with my scenes. Right now i have 2x 1080ti

I was also considering water cooling the system but thought would it be even worth it going through all the hassle with maintenance and the possible dangers that come with future term.

Here are my specs

Case
THERMALTAKE CORE X71 TEMPERED GLASS EDITION GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 16 Core CPU (3.5GHz-4.7GHz/73MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® CROSSHAIR VIII HERO (DDR4, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX/SLI) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
128GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (4 x 32GB)
Graphics Card
24GB NVIDIA TITAN RTX - HDMI, 3x DP - RTX VR Ready!
2nd Graphics Card
24GB NVIDIA TITAN RTX - HDMI, 3x DP - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
10TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 4400MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1200W HX SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® PLATINUM, ULTRA QUIET
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
LED Lighting
2x 50cm RGB LED Strip
Extra Case Fans
5x Corsair LL120 RGB LED Fan + Controller Kit
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
-
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days

 

[Scott]

Do you specifically need the drive bays? The Case isn't one that I would have chosen. I would be more likely to go for something like the 680X when housing all that top end hardware.

There's nothing else I would change to be honest. The only other thing to consider was if there was any merit to a TR4 build.

 

[Deleted member 103489]

Do you specifically need the drive bays? The Case isn't one that I would have chosen. I would be more likely to go for something like the 680X when housing all that top end hardware.

There's nothing else I would change to be honest. The only other thing to consider was if there was any merit to a TR4 build.

Hi scott, thanks so much for looking through my specs..

Ahhhhh Yes did not see this case while scrowling through, with this size the case would be more ideal for size and probably airflow.
Well spotted as that past me completely

Yeah i was looking through the TR4 build but was not sure whether standard water loop would be enough for this and would have had to opt for liquid cooled system.

Also liquid cooled series don't include the titan rtx on the list and don't think they have them for water cooling blocks while custom building.

The reason for the titan was for the extra vram while building my scenes i do go over the 11gb of vram memory

I may also consider getting 24gb titan and 2080ti 11gb for 2nd for rtx acceleration


Thanks again for looking into this

Jamie

 

[Scott]

It would depend on the TR4 selection to be honest. The 360mm cooler that's offered is a beast of a cooler so it would keep the chip cool. With a good case and good airflow the GPUs would do their job nicely I think.

I don't have experience with that level of GPU computing so I wouldn't want to comment on what would be best for you, I'm sure you will know far better. I'm guessing you can select the GPUs for the processes though so different GPUs would work fine together (It's not SLI I guess?)

 

[Deleted member 103489]

Yeah agreed i think good sized case you can go long way with keeping things cool.
TR4 i may consider looking into this.

Your right if i was to opt for titan rtx and 2080ti instead i would run into the problem with sli and NVlink but i would only be using with octane render mostly and do beleive their would eb no issues with them on this. But going to get some advice on this one through the octane hardware forums.

This would also shave off about £1k of the price to
unless i go TR4 though Lol


Also don't think NVlink work to great with 2080ti to.. i was hearing they can be linked up with both their vram storage so it would show more than the 11gb available.. but whether this is still in the works.. 2x titan rtx may be my goal for now.

Thanks again

Jamie

 

[Deleted member 103489]

Hi,

Can i confirm whether this board or any motherboard for that matter will work well with x2 gpu.. for example will 1 of these cards run in to overheating issues due to them being closer together.. Or do these motherboards allow good room for airflow.

Thanks

 

[Scott]

This level of system are designed with multi-GPU fully supported. The case is more the key component in multi-GPU. The spacing between the cards is a standard design.

You need a GOOD and well balanced case for airflow.

 

[Deleted member 103489]

This level of system are designed with multi-GPU fully supported. The case is more the key component in multi-GPU. The spacing between the cards is a standard design.

You need a GOOD and well balanced case for airflow.

Agreed.

I am finding it rather tricky to pick the ideal case the one you did point out is great but adding extra fans to the build was incomaptible.. I know i am not after looks i am more after something that will help keep things cool.

I have month to research this i really don't want to mess things up on getting case thats going to be pointless for my hardware.

 

[Scott]

Agreed.

I am finding it rather tricky to pick the ideal case the one you did point out is great but adding extra fans to the build was incomaptible.. I know i am not after looks i am more after something that will help keep things cool.

I have month to research this i really don't want to mess things up on getting case thats going to be pointless for my hardware.

I would consider the fans a little less. Just post up your thoughts on the case and we can point you in the right direction.

Fans don't mean as much as you will think. It's all about balance in the case itself. Most cases are built with a certain balance of pressure (VERY important). You want a very slightly positive internal pressure in the system. The perfect system will sacrifice this for performance...... as in, when at full chat, you will have a very slight vacuum. The main point is that 99% of the time the system is expelling dust.

Don't worry about fans... worry about flow!

What cases do you like the look of? Give me what you want, I'll point out what I think is the best and why (as will anyone else looking to advise )

 

[Deleted member 103489]

I would consider the fans a little less. Just post up your thoughts on the case and we can point you in the right direction.

Fans don't mean as much as you will think. It's all about balance in the case itself. Most cases are built with a certain balance of pressure (VERY important). You want a very slightly positive internal pressure in the system. The perfect system will sacrifice this for performance...... as in, when at full chat, you will have a very slight vacuum. The main point is that 99% of the time the system is expelling dust.

Don't worry about fans... worry about flow!

What cases do you like the look of? Give me what you want, I'll point out what I think is the best and why (as will anyone else looking to advise )

Many thanks for gettign back to me scott.

Fully agree with you here.

I did have a case in mind. I was pointed out by admin of octane hardware (facebook group for 3d rendering) the case however is EU and not sure whether their is anything similiar to the built on pcp

link
(please remove if this is not alloud sorry)

InWin 905

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www.in-win.com

The admin on their said its not all about looks for the case but quality

What are your thoughts on this case? should i go something similair to this or bigger.

I do have plenty time to decide but i knew while building my spec pc a case was going to be the most important thing to this.

Thanks again

Jamie

 

[Scott]

Excellent case, very pretty with good air flow...... it ain't no define R7 IMO though and the top tier Corsair options are honestly going to run rings round it for airflow.

That is an EXCELLENT mid-tier case, there's absolutely no doubt..... you're not looking for mid-tier airflow though unfortunately. For high end, long running renders, you want absolute first class airflow.

I can't see past the Define for keeping the noise down. I don't think there's a better case on the planet in that regard.

However.... for absolute pinnacle airflow and space you're looking at the larger Corsair 680X.

For the middle of the road, the 500D SE is probably as good as you will ever see. It's got the front end push and the nice looks/shape to go with it.

You won't go wrong, really, with any choice at this level though. I can only say what would be optimum. As long as you are spending reasonably on a case you won't really go wrong. If you want the BEST, it's probably the 680X. If you want quiet but excellent, it's the R7, if you want a wee bit of both with stunning looks... it's the 500D SE. The InWin is probably just under the 500D SE. It won't be as quiet as the R7 but it will have good airflow..... just not as good as the 680X..... and it's decent looking, but not as good as the 500D SE.

 

[Deleted member 103489]

Excellent case, very pretty with good air flow...... it ain't no define R7 IMO though and the top tier Corsair options are honestly going to run rings round it for airflow.

That is an EXCELLENT mid-tier case, there's absolutely no doubt..... you're not looking for mid-tier airflow though unfortunately. For high end, long running renders, you want absolute first class airflow.

I can't see past the Define for keeping the noise down. I don't think there's a better case on the planet in that regard.

However.... for absolute pinnacle airflow and space you're looking at the larger Corsair 680X.

For the middle of the road, the 500D SE is probably as good as you will ever see. It's got the front end push and the nice looks/shape to go with it.

You won't go wrong, really, with any choice at this level though. I can only say what would be optimum. As long as you are spending reasonably on a case you won't really go wrong. If you want the BEST, it's probably the 680X. If you want quiet but excellent, it's the R7, if you want a wee bit of both with stunning looks... it's the 500D SE. The InWin is probably just under the 500D SE. It won't be as quiet as the R7 but it will have good airflow..... just not as good as the 680X..... and it's decent looking, but not as good as the 500D SE.

Yeah the case does look great. Theis did tick all those boxes. (but new the case was maybe litle smaller)

Thanks for these recomendations scott, this really helps me out on the choices of other cases and ones to also avoid.
I am going to push for this case it does seem to be ideal.. I know corsair 1000 would be complete overkill for my setup
but this case was not on the listing for this build.. and i am sure for a good reason to.


Thanks again

Jamie

 

[Scott]

Yeah the case does look great. Theis did tick all those boxes. (but new the case was maybe litle smaller)

Thanks for these recomendations scott, this really helps me out on the choices of other cases and ones to also avoid.
I am going to push for this case it does seem to be ideal.. I know corsair 1000 would be complete overkill for my setup
but this case was not on the listing for this build.. and i am sure for a good reason to.


Thanks again

Jamie

Don't get me wrong.... it wouldn't be my choice. I would take any one of the others mentioned before it. I just mean it's definitely a decent case.

The 1000D is VERY high end. It's past what most people would be looking to have in their house (size wise).

If it's something you would like to accommodate you could have it delivered to PCS using the "use your own case" option.

 

[Deleted member 103489]

Don't get me wrong.... it wouldn't be my choice. I would take any one of the others mentioned before it. I just mean it's definitely a decent case.

The 1000D is VERY high end. It's past what most people would be looking to have in their house (size wise).

If it's something you would like to accommodate you could have it delivered to PCS using the "use your own case" option.

yeah it is a great case but yes the size is probably way to big.. watching reviews just shows the scale of that but i have to admit it looks really cool.

680x seems to be the case for me on this build. Everything ticks the boxes for airflow etc.

Just still having this issue with whether motherboards with 2 gpu slots are really ideal. I am still worried whether these 2 cards will be so crammed in that even having the best case out their won't be enough to solve my overheating issues for 1 of the gpu cards.

I know liquid cooling would solve that problem with the 2 of them but that would require me todo my homework and research again.. I know watercooling pc's look amazing on display and perform well but for me to see it just for that reason would probably not be right for me.. I feel these coolers would have to have a good purpose for someone who knows what their doing.

Thanks again

Jamie

 

[Scott]

There are a couple of avenues to go down here.

There's absolutely nothing to worry about regarding the 2 GPUs being crammed in... honestly, that's what they are designed for. Airflow is the key to them which the 680X has in abundance.

The Cooler that's selected has a pair of extraction fans attached to it so that only promotes airflow, and it's completely related to the temps of the CPU. It ramps up when the temps get a bit higher. So does the fan controller in the case..... seriously, don't worry about that.

With all that being said, the GPU itself is something to consider. If I was in your shoes I would contact PCS at the time of considering order to find out what 2080Tis they were going to use in the build. I'm NEVER a fan of blower cards, regardless of what may be considered an advantage in dual mode.

If it was a blower card that was on offer I would either opt for 2x Strix cards (extra money, but still less than liquid cooling)
Or...
Purchase my own Zotac Amp Extreme versions.

This is a very high end system. I wouldn't recommend purchasing off a configurator without getting some information on what's being fitted (model wise) in regards to the GPU.

Feel free to call when you are ready to order and ask. Feed back here at the time and we can advise the best course of action. Even if you placed the order with the above.... you're more than able to remove the GPUs from your build to allow you to fit your own if they don't suit

 

[Deleted member 103489]

There are a couple of avenues to go down here.

There's absolutely nothing to worry about regarding the 2 GPUs being crammed in... honestly, that's what they are designed for. Airflow is the key to them which the 680X has in abundance.

The Cooler that's selected has a pair of extraction fans attached to it so that only promotes airflow, and it's completely related to the temps of the CPU. It ramps up when the temps get a bit higher. So does the fan controller in the case..... seriously, don't worry about that.

With all that being said, the GPU itself is something to consider. If I was in your shoes I would contact PCS at the time of considering order to find out what 2080Tis they were going to use in the build. I'm NEVER a fan of blower cards, regardless of what may be considered an advantage in dual mode.

If it was a blower card that was on offer I would either opt for 2x Strix cards (extra money, but still less than liquid cooling)
Or...
Purchase my own Zotac Amp Extreme versions.

This is a very high end system. I wouldn't recommend purchasing off a configurator without getting some information on what's being fitted (model wise) in regards to the GPU.

Feel free to call when you are ready to order and ask. Feed back here at the time and we can advise the best course of action. Even if you placed the order with the above.... you're more than able to remove the GPUs from your build to allow you to fit your own if they don't suit

Thanks again Scott... appreciate this.. some really great advice here and you have rest my case on this board now.
the 2080ti strip would lower my budget to I was considering 2 titans but according to reviews they actually perform slower than the 2x 2080ti mad right?

thanks again Scott for the help you have answered everything I needed to know and thatI do appreciate.

I may fill you in on whether I have different plans for my build o think a lot could probably change within month Lol

 

[Scott]

The Titans are different beasts Jamie. They are all about the VRAM, and have their own angle entirely. The are certainly not "slower" than the 2080Ti.... they just aren't gaming cards. For compute throughput they are something to behold and more powerful than the 2080Ti.

IMO they aren't worth it.... that's just me of course. Their showpiece is definitely the VRAM. Their horsepower, as much as it's more than the 2080Ti.... isn't that much for me, given the cost.

With professional applications in mind... I would have 2 2080Tis in my system... over a Titan (2 would be a bit of overkill).

It's a level of utilisation that I don't have any experience in so always better to reach out to community forums for the software you are using. As always.... caution to who you listen to..... but they should, generally, know better

 

[Deleted member 103489]

The Titans are different beasts Jamie. They are all about the VRAM, and have their own angle entirely. The are certainly not "slower" than the 2080Ti.... they just aren't gaming cards. For compute throughput they are something to behold and more powerful than the 2080Ti.

IMO they aren't worth it.... that's just me of course. Their showpiece is definitely the VRAM. Their horsepower, as much as it's more than the 2080Ti.... isn't that much for me, given the cost.

With professional applications in mind... I would have 2 2080Tis in my system... over a Titan (2 would be a bit of overkill).

It's a level of utilisation that I don't have any experience in so always better to reach out to community forums for the software you are using. As always.... caution to who you listen to..... but they should, generally, know better

I am agreeing with you their Scott I honestly don’t think their worth it for my needs.

even if I got 1 Titan and 1 2080ti I would only get the 9gb of vram on octane and I would only gain 10% increase .. not worth it for the extra 1.3k on top

If I had just dived in and just got a pc with those cards I would have wasted a lot of money here :-(

 

[Deleted member 103489]

While edjusting my specs, this would be within budget if i wanted threadripper just throwing the idea in.. but again the case changes. If threadripper was selected the 680x would not fit the motherboard

and the lack of cooler..Really coolmaster for threadripper hmmm reason for this i had coolmaster that had failed on me after several months.. Always found corsair to be that bit more reliable. But again no brand is perfect i suppose.

But watercooling system with the same hardware specs may also be that option to just that may push the budget over.
But adjusting the ram from half may soften the blow.

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500M GAMING CASE
Overclocked CPU
Overclocked AMD Threadripper 3970X 32 Core (3.7GHz @ up to 4.3GHz)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG ZENITH II EXTREME (DDR4, Wi-Fi 6, CrossFireX/SLI) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
128GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (4 x 32GB)
Graphics Card
11GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE RTX 2080 Ti - HDMI, DP
2nd Graphics Card
11GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE RTX 2080 Ti - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
10TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 128MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 4400MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1200W HX SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® PLATINUM, ULTRA QUIET
Braided Power Supply Cables
CORSAIR Premium Individually Sleeved PSU Cable Kit Pro - Red/Black
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid ML360 RGB TR4 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
LED Lighting
2x 50cm RGB LED Strip
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED (i have it assigned to my email account)

 

[Scott]

The original build is going to be better for gaming but the Threadripper build would make it look like it was standing still for multi-thread performance (rendering etc).

There's always going to be some sort of compromise though

The H500 case is fine. I would honestly give PCS a call and ask if it's a configuration error. There may be some sort of layout problem.