Just about to press the purchase button

[weare one]

Hi all


After much deliberating and a couple of past posts in here, I am just about to press the purchase button so a quick look by your good self's would be much appreciated.


I am not a gamer so a top level GPU is not required but I do some basic photo editing in Photoshop.


Main use will be Excel/up to 10 plus web pages open/4-8 word docs open/Photoshop running and perhaps some music so dvd r/w required in case.


I have tried to futureproof this system but have I gone overboard on i7 and 500gb M2 or underwhelmed on GPU.


Thanks in advance


Case

NZXT PHANTOM 410 WHITE GAMING CASE​

Processor (CPU)

Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor i7-8700 (3.2GHz) 12MB Cache

FREE Warhammer: Vermintide 2 & XMorph Defense w/ select Intel CPUs!​

Motherboard

ASUS® PRIME Z370-P: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs​

Memory (RAM)

16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)​

Graphics Card

4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1050 Ti - DVI, HDMI, DP​

1[SUP]st[/SUP] Hard Disk

1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 32MB CACHE​

1[SUP]st[/SUP] M.2 SSD Drive

512GB SAMSUNG 970 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 2300MB/W)​

DVD/BLU-RAY Drive

24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM​

Power Supply

CORSAIR 450W VS SERIES™ VS-450 POWER SUPPLY​

Power Cable

1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)​

Processor Cooling

PCS FrostFlow 100 Series High Performance CPU Cooler​

Thermal Paste

STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING​

LED Lighting

50cm Blue LED Strip​

Extra Case Fans

2x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)​

Sound Card

ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)​

Wireless/Wired Networking

WIRELESS 802.11 AC1200 867Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD​

USB Options

MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS​

Operating System

Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]​

Operating System Language

United Kingdom - English Language​

Windows Recovery Media

Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account​

Office Software

FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)​

Anti-Virus

NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE​

Browser

Firefox™​

Keyboard & Mouse

LOGITECH® MK270 WIRELESS KEYBOARD & MOUSE COMBO​

Warranty

3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)​

Delivery

2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND​

Build Time

Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days​

Quantity

1​

Price £1,424.00 including VAT and delivery

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As suggested by berserksteve

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£1500 max and quite happy using my auld 17inch Philips 170s

 

[berserksteve]

One thing that will also help the knowledgeable guys here is the limit of your budget and what display you intend on using, in case you want to edit that in while waiting

 

[weare one]

unk:

 

[Oussebon]

I'd suggest buying a new monitor. Any cheap 24" 1080p one. 1080p is much higher resolution, and is very useful for productivity, e.g. letting you display 2 programs side by side very comfortably.

An i7 isn't necessary, and isn't really beneficial for your uses either. I'd suggest a system based around an AMD Ryzen R5 2600x. Same number of cores and threads as the i7, with fairly decent frequencies and similar IPC, but a lot less expensive.

You don't really need the Samsung Pro for your uses. The Evo is already crazy fast.




Case
NZXT PHANTOM 410 WHITE GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.25GHz/19MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® STRIX B350-F GAMING (DDR4, USB 3.0, 6Gb/s) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1050 Ti - DVI, HDMI, DP
1[SUP]st[/SUP] Hard Disk
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 32MB CACHE
1[SUP]st[/SUP] M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3400MB/R, 2300MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 100 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11 AC1200 867Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Monitor
IIYAMA X2481HS 24" LED WIDESCREEN, D-Sub, DVI-D, HDMI 1920x1080
Keyboard & Mouse
LOGITECH® MK270 WIRELESS KEYBOARD & MOUSE COMBO
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Quantity
1

Price £1,423.00 including VAT and delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-pc/4MpUFVAtgv/

 

[weare one]

Thank you Oussebon for your considered advice its very much appreciated.

Your monitor advice is spot on (as is the rest) so I'm going to pop into town over the weekend to check what the monitor sizes are like in real life as I may go for 27in.

Hoping to order Sat/Sun

 

[Oussebon]

Some people find the pixel density a bit low for 1080p on 27". Plus 27" monitors can add an extra ~£40 onto a 1080p monitor, which is getting towards 1440p 27" monitors. See what you think when you look at a few I guess

 

[weare one]

Some people find the pixel density a bit low for 1080p on 27". Plus 27" monitors can add an extra ~£40 onto a 1080p monitor, which is getting towards 1440p 27" monitors. See what you think when you look at a few I guess

Ahhhhhh I did not even take into consideration the difference between 1080p and 1440p...I shall have to look into it

 

[Oussebon]

Since you're not gaming, a 1050 ti should be as good for a 1440p monitor as a 1080p one. 1440p monitors can usually be had for ~£200, though even a ~£100/120 1080p 24" monitor would be a huge upgrade over your current one in terms of screen real estate. Keep us posted!

 

[weare one]

Since you're not gaming, a 1050 ti should be as good for a 1440p monitor as a 1080p one. 1440p monitors can usually be had for ~£200, though even a ~£100/120 1080p 24" monitor would be a huge upgrade over your current one in terms of screen real estate. Keep us posted!

Wow choices choices

Its a minefield having only ever had 17/19 inch monitors the widescreen are definitely a different kettle of fish.

I seem to like the 27inch, if you don't mind me asking what do you think of these....I'm a little lost to be frank.

Both available on PCS web site btw.

27" IIYAMA X2783HSU-B3
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/iiyama-X27...id=1529783202&sr=8-3&keywords=iiyama+x2783hsu

AOC 27 inch 1 ms Resp
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/AOC-Respon...529782304&SubscriptionId=AKIAJO7E5OLQ67NVPFZA

 

[Oussebon]

Of the 2, the IIyama is the clear winner for your uses thanks to the AMVA+ panel.

While both are available at PCS, you are ofc free to buy them elsewhere if it saves you £

 

[weare one]

Of the 2, the IIyama is the clear winner for your uses thanks to the AMVA+ panel.

While both are available at PCS, you are ofc free to buy them elsewhere if it saves you £

Thank you once again Oussebon and again I have had to search the difference in panels such as AMVA+ as this is ALL new to me...good learning curve though :yes:

Yes price is important and more so guarantee and return policy especially as this system and monitor is coming to sunny Ireland unk:

 

[weare one]

Well I'm still dithering over two things!!!!!

1).Monitor.....ASUS VC279H 27" ULTRA-SLIM IPS MONITOR..or Iiyama B2783QSU-B1 27
both seem to have good reviews...any thoughts most welcome or even a good suggestion for say £250 max ?​

And


2).I've come into a tad more money (sales of some of my comic collection.....cry cry) and I am rather impressed with this new review Vulcan S 01.


Ok I gather its over kill for my non gaming needs but the extra £200/£300 appears to give me a awful lot more bang for bucks so to speak and I do like a bargain.


However it is just a waste of that extra hard earned dosh if I'm never going to use the extra grunt. Although at my auld age this system should be as future proof as I will ever need!!!!!

 

[Oussebon]

Ok I gather its over kill for my non gaming needs but the extra £200/£300 appears to give me a awful lot more bang for bucks so to speak and I do like a bargain.


However it is just a waste of that extra hard earned dosh if I'm never going to use the extra grunt.

It's overkill. You're not going to need the better GPU for your uses. It's a good deal, but not for what you're shopping for.

If you were going to spend more on the system, I wouldn't suggest the Vulkan. I'd suggest getting a system based on an i7 8700(k) with a 1050 ti GPU, and keeping back the extra cash for a 4k IPS monitor.

For your uses, if you're going to spend more on something, it should really be a higher resolution monitor.

 

[weare one]

It's overkill. You're not going to need the better GPU for your uses. It's a good deal, but not for what you're shopping for.

If you were going to spend more on the system, I wouldn't suggest the Vulkan. I'd suggest getting a system based on an i7 8700(k) with a 1050 ti GPU, and keeping back the extra cash for a 4k IPS monitor.

For your uses, if you're going to spend more on something, it should really be a higher resolution monitor.

Good man Oussebon sound advice as usual.


I shall make my mind up re the monitor and hopefully put an order in later today or tomorrow.


Many thanks for all your advice.

 

[weare one]

Ok Ive settled for a non 4k monitor but any quick thoughts/suggestions on the following ....and I promise I will then at long last make my mind up


Case

NZXT PHANTOM 410 WHITE GAMING CASE​

Processor (CPU)

Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor i7-8700k (3.7GHz) 12MB Cache​

Motherboard

ASUS® TUF Z370-PLUS GAMING: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready​

Memory (RAM)

16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)​

Graphics Card

4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1050 Ti - DVI, HDMI, DP​

1[SUP]st[/SUP] Hard Disk

1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 32MB CACHE​

1[SUP]st[/SUP] M.2 SSD Drive

500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3400MB/R, 2300MB/W)​

DVD/BLU-RAY Drive

24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM​

Power Supply

CORSAIR 450W VS SERIES™ VS-450 POWER SUPPLY​

Power Cable

1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)​

Processor Cooling

CoolerMaster Hyper 212X (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler​

Thermal Paste

STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING​

LED Lighting

50cm Blue LED Strip​

Sound Card

ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)​

Wireless/Wired Networking

WIRELESS 802.11 AC1200 867Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD​

USB Options

MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS​

Operating System

Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]​

Operating System Language

United Kingdom - English Language​

Windows Recovery Media

Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account​

Office Software

FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)​

Anti-Virus

NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE​

Browser

Firefox™​

Monitor

IIYAMA X2783HSU-B3 27" AMVA+ LED WIDESCREEN, 1920x1080​

Keyboard & Mouse

LOGITECH® MK270 WIRELESS KEYBOARD & MOUSE COMBO​

Warranty

3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)​

Delivery

2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND​

Build Time

Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 9 working days​

Quantity

1​

Price £1,610.00 including VAT and delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : ​

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z370-pc/uJAdE0aXWq/

 

[Oussebon]

The spec seems fine.

That's relatively expensive for what is ultimately a 'budget' 1080p monitor.

You can get 25" 1440p IPS monitors for £170 or less, e.g. Acer H257HU. Or ~£180 for 1440p IPS 27" e.g. HannsG HQ272PPB

Any modern monitor is going to be an upgrade over your old one, but I would suggest going for 1440p for this kind of money.

 

[weare one]

The spec seems fine.


You can get 25" 1440p IPS monitors for £170 or less, e.g. Acer H257HU. Or ~£180 for 1440p IPS 27" e.g. HannsG HQ272PPB

Any modern monitor is going to be an upgrade over your old one, but I would suggest going for 1440p for this kind of money.

Thank you Oussebon I have been struggling with getting good prices over here in Ireland and I have looked at sooooooo many reviews I think I confused myself !!!!!!

 

[weare one]

At long last I have just ordered the following...

Case NZXT PHANTOM 410 WHITE GAMING CASE Processor (CPU) Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor i7-8700k (3.7GHz) 12MB Cache Motherboard ASUS® PRIME Z370-P: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs Memory (RAM) 16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB) Graphics Card 4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1050 Ti - DVI, HDMI, DP 1st Hard Disk 1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 32MB CACHE 1st M.2 SSD Drive 500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3400MB/R, 2300MB/W) DVD/BLU-RAY Drive 24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM Power Supply CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY Power Cable 1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead) Processor Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212X (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler Thermal Paste STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING LED Lighting 50cm Blue LED Strip Sound Card ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD) Wireless/Wired Networking WIRELESS 802.11 AC1200 867Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD USB Options MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS Operating System Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001] Operating System Language United Kingdom - English Language Windows Recovery Media Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Supplied on DVD Office Software FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required) Anti-Virus NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE Browser Firefox™ Keyboard & Mouse LOGITECH® MK270 WIRELESS KEYBOARD & MOUSE COMBO Warranty 3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) Delivery 2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND Build Time Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days
Quantity 1 Total Order Price Ex VAT €1,324.39 Total VAT €304.61
Total Order Price €1,629.00

and

AOC 27 inch , Vesa Q2778VQE from Amazon

I'll keep me fingers and everything else crossed that all goes well :chinese:

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[Oussebon]

Sounds good

Be aware that this monitor Q2778VQE has a TN panel, rather than IPS.

 

[weare one]

Be aware that this monitor Q2778VQE has a TN panel, rather than IPS.

Bummer...….I've spent days trying to get a monitor at the right price sent to Ireland and settled for this review https://www.gamingscan.com/best-1440p-monitors/.

Even ordering was a bit of an ordeal as PCS web site would not accept my payment and kept telling me to change drop down box at top of page to Euros but this was already done as well as county stating Ireland. I had to phone my order through and William was very helpful and took my order saying it may have been a cookie in my browser.

My poor auld Asus P5W DH has already crashed twice today so I'm really looking forward to the safe arrival of this system:yes: