I5-13600K pc - need help checking everythings compatible!

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SteveEllesmore311

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So had a laptop for years which is below average, did a job of basic tasks but even struggles with that these days. A lot of the things I used to like doing I just cannot do on it such as Video Editing, Photo Editing, playing decent games on there, even Football Manager and Age of Empires II struggles :/

So I did research on the processor and I gather that the i5-13600k is a beast of a processor but is the whole unit compatible with each other? Is the Case of decent enough quality ventilation wise or will i have problems? Should I have better thermal paste etc.
Basically be good to gauge feedback from people who know what they're talking about :)

Case PCS P209 ARGB MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU) Intel® CoreTM i5 14-Core Processor i5-13600KF (Up to 5.1GHz) 24MBCache

Motherboard GIGABYTE Z790 UD (LGA1700, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM) 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 5200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card 8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4060 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
Graphics Card Support Bracket NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive 1TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR,2950MB/sW)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIESTM SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRAQUIET

Power Cable 1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling PCS FrostFlow 120 Series ARGB High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
 
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The case is bad, I'm afraid. Also the cooling is insufficient, the GPU is really not great, the RAM is slower than ideal. I'd also question the CPU, but it might be a good call if you do a lot of video editing.

A few questions to help us get you something better:
  1. What games will you be playing?
  2. What budget do you have?
  3. What monitor will you be using?
 
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Thank you for replying and in answer to the questions, gaming wise I'll be playing Football Manager, so appreciate 3D isn't it's strong points, but from there I'd love to give more graphically intensive games a go such as F1 Manager. I have a PS5 for gaming, but if there's something not on there, it would be good to use the new PC for it.
So the graphics card isn't the be all and end all but I want there to be a decent one, but will I be playing Call of Duty intensively? No, at least not at first.

Budget wise I'm looking at £1,500.

Monitor I was looking at this one https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-LF24T450FQUXEN-F24T450FQU-Monitor/dp/B08DMWZDZG/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3FLYWK3FKTJV8&keywords=LF24T450FQUXEN&qid=1685125674&sprefix=lf24t450fquxen,aps,178&sr=8-1
 
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I reckon this PC would be a lot better for you... as long as you also get a better display than that one! For FM it won't matter at all (and my guess is F1 Manager won't need high framerates either) but you definitely want to go for 1440p. Maybe the AOC Q27G2U, or the Gigabyte G27Q.

Here's the system I'd recommend:

Case
PCS SPECTRUM G ARGB MID TOWER CASE (PWM) Better case
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core CPU (4.0GHz-5.2GHz/38MB CACHE/AM5) Strong CPU on an upgradable platform
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (DDR5, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB) Fast RAM is needed
Graphics Card
12GB AMD RADEON™ RX 6700 XT - HDMI, DP - DX® 12 A much better buy than the 4060 Ti
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7000MB/R, 3000MB/W) Fast boot drive
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 2950MB/sW) Games drive etc
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET A PSU to last you today and into the future
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 150 Series High Performance CPU Cooler Good cooler for the 7600
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 10 working days
Price: £1,485.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/KP6RKjvXA9/
 
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Really appreciate that advice, thank you. I gather though that the processor wouldn't be as good for anything that uses multi core? which I gather FM doesen't use.
But is it a case that the other things within the AMD route balance it out?
 
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SteveEllesmore311 said:
Really appreciate that advice, thank you. I gather though that the processor wouldn't be as good for anything that uses multi core? which I gather FM doesen't use.
But is it a case that the other things within the AMD route balance it out?
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Multi core stuff generally means things like video editing, code compilation or other super heavy tasks. Very little in gaming would fall into that category. Certainly FM is incredibly undemanding, so you'll be fine.

And yes, the platform benefits to AMD (including power efficiency and upgradability) are massive.
 
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sck451 said:
I reckon this PC would be a lot better for you... as long as you also get a better display than that one! For FM it won't matter at all (and my guess is F1 Manager won't need high framerates either) but you definitely want to go for 1440p. Maybe the AOC Q27G2U, or the Gigabyte G27Q.

Here's the system I'd recommend:

Case
PCS SPECTRUM G ARGB MID TOWER CASE (PWM) Better case
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core CPU (4.0GHz-5.2GHz/38MB CACHE/AM5) Strong CPU on an upgradable platform
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (DDR5, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB) Fast RAM is needed
Graphics Card
12GB AMD RADEON™ RX 6700 XT - HDMI, DP - DX® 12 A much better buy than the 4060 Ti
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7000MB/R, 3000MB/W) Fast boot drive
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 2950MB/sW) Games drive etc
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET A PSU to last you today and into the future
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 150 Series High Performance CPU Cooler Good cooler for the 7600
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 10 working days
Price: £1,485.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/KP6RKjvXA9/
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On this link its now coming up as £1,325 but the menu has been defaulted to 8GB. Is 32GB 6000Mhz no longer available?
Also I see a lot of things in this forum swaying people away from Intel, is this purely because of price or is it because AMD is better quality too/just as good etc.
 
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SteveEllesmore311 said:
On this link its now coming up as £1,325 but the menu has been defaulted to 8GB. Is 32GB 6000Mhz no longer available?
Also I see a lot of things in this forum swaying people away from Intel, is this purely because of price or is it because AMD is better quality too/just as good etc.
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AMD are what Intel were 5 years ago, Intel are now the poor performer, expensive even with worse performance, and very hard to keep from thermal throttling so you have to spend more on ultra premium cooling.

6000mhz has been pulled currently due to stability issues with the current emergency BIOS that restricts voltages. They’re working on a proper fix, but PCS have to provide stable systems so have temporarily stopped sale of 6000
 
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cheers for the info guys re. AMD vs Intel. I did have an AMD back in the late 90s but it didn't end well, however I appreciate this was years ago!

So I've amended the spec so it's:
Case
PCS PRISM TG BLACK ARGB MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core CPU (4.0GHz-5.2GHz/38MB CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (DDR5, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 5200MHz (1 x 32GB)
Graphics Card
16GB AMD RADEON™ RX 6950 XT - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7000MB/R, 3000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 2950MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 150 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 9 working days
Price: £1,699.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/tsjGFChDs!/

Gonna with the Graphics card of the AMD Radeon RX 6950 XT and the Ram is
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 5200MHz (1 x 32GB).
Case wise, gone with the top one PC Specialist offer but no idea if it's good at cooling.

If anyone can shed any light on the spec that would be great!
 
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Looks good, but that case is worse than the one I suggested. For a mid-range case, I'd suggest spending £8 more and getting the Fractal Focus 2: it's a great option for your build.
 
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Case
Send In Your Own Case
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core CPU (4.0GHz-5.2GHz/38MB CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (DDR5, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
12GB AMD RADEON™ RX 6700 XT - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3500 MB/R, 3100 MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 2950MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 150 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Monitor
IIYAMA XUB2792QSU-B5 27" WQHD, DVI, HDMI, DP 2560x1440
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 12 working days
Price: £1,521.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/5n3peMx!Bn/

I'll be using the PC for Football Manager, F1 Manager potentially and Adobe Premier and Photoshop
The thing I'm struggling with though is that would this system be upgradeable much in the future? Also the monitor, would this be good?

Just to add, I don't have a clue about cases, what case would be good for this to ensure it doesen't overheat but also looks cool and isn't too large - appreciate the smaller the case, the less airflow though
 
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SteveEllesmore311 said:
saw this link though which suggests this Graphic Card is fine? https://www.pcguide.com/gpu/best-gpus-for-premiere-pro/#:~:text=While it may not match,hobbyists working with Premiere Pro.
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I wouldn't pay any attention to that site. It considers the process node size to be a significant thing you should pay attention to, which is so spectacularly wrong that I distrust everything else they say.

An AMD card will probably largely be ok for Premiere Pro, but mostly Nvidia cards will significantly outperform an AMD card.
 
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was about to purchase the spec above with the CORSAIR ICUE 465X RGB GAMING CASE, but it says the graphics card is 31cm and the case only supports cards upto 30cm - damn.

Is there an alternative graphics card that is similar price/similar spec but is shorter?
 
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Did post a fair bit in another thread but didn't purchase, however I'm about to take the plunge now but I've had to amend the case as the previous one I was going to use was too small apparently.

When making up the system, it suggested I downgrade the Power Supply too and with the 512GB hard drive I was selecting out of stock, I've had to change this too

Are there any pitfalls with this system?

Case
CORSAIR 4000D RGB AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE - WHITE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core CPU (4.0GHz-5.2GHz/38MB CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (DDR5, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
12GB AMD RADEON™ RX 6700 XT - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 2950MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMe SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 150 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Monitor
IIYAMA XUB2792QSU-B5 27" WQHD, DVI, HDMI, DP 2560x1440
Keyboard & Mouse
LOGITECH® MK270 WIRELESS KEYBOARD & MOUSE COMBO
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Price: £1,619.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/ERdPf298QW/
 
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