Gaming PC under 400£
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Lepasconnu
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In my humble opinion, the SSD is not the best choice here.
It lacks space, with windows installed on it, you have ±70 GB left on it.
And I guess at 9 years old your son won't be too bothered by having to wait a bit longer for his games to load.
Therefore a HDD would do the trick, with way more internal space for almost the same price.
Others on this forum will be able to give you way more help than me, with more details and knowledge.
It lacks space, with windows installed on it, you have ±70 GB left on it.
And I guess at 9 years old your son won't be too bothered by having to wait a bit longer for his games to load.
Therefore a HDD would do the trick, with way more internal space for almost the same price.
Others on this forum will be able to give you way more help than me, with more details and knowledge.
Hi there,
thanks a lot for the answers. The quote I got was right under 400£, I think because it's hardware only, it doesn't include any software.
Regarding the SSD, I was mostly interested in the quietness, as the scratching noise of a HDD tends to annoy me, and I already have a large HDD that can be used as secondary storage.
Regarding the CPU, what I like with the A8 7600 is the reduced power usage (~50W vs 75W for the FX6300) which translates into less heat & less noise.
Your feedback is very welcome,
Chris
thanks a lot for the answers. The quote I got was right under 400£, I think because it's hardware only, it doesn't include any software.
Regarding the SSD, I was mostly interested in the quietness, as the scratching noise of a HDD tends to annoy me, and I already have a large HDD that can be used as secondary storage.
Regarding the CPU, what I like with the A8 7600 is the reduced power usage (~50W vs 75W for the FX6300) which translates into less heat & less noise.
Your feedback is very welcome,
Chris
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Oussebon
Multiverse Poster
This might be better:
Case
PCS DOMINATOR 6806B BLACK CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core G4500 (3.50GHz, 3MB Cache) + HD Graphics
Motherboard
ASUS® H110M-D D3: Micro-ATX, LG1151, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)
8GB Kingston DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 750 Ti - 2 x DVI, mHDMI - 3D Vision Ready
1st Hard Disk
120GB KINGSTON V300 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (450MB/R, 450MB/W)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 450W VS SERIES™ VS-450 POWER SUPPLY
Processor Cooling
INTEL STANDARD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£5)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days
Quantity
1
Price: £393.00 including VAT and delivery.
Unique URL to re-configure: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/intel-skylake-home-office-pc/xFdAFvwAte/
Paired with a dedicated graphics card, Intel CPUs will generally beat AMD ones at the same price point for gaming performance. Also the Pentium seems to beat out the A8-7600 in productivity benchmarks:
http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-pentium-g4400-processor-review-skylake_179724/10
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1270?vs=1256
http://www.3dnews.ru/924775/page-2.html
http://ru.gecid.com/cpu/intel_pentium_g4400/?s=1
So unless your son is doing a lot of video editing he's probably better off with a Pentium. And there's the notional option of being able to pop an i5 in there should you ever want to upgrade.
I'm not sure how quiet any system is going to be with a budget case's fans and a budget PSU (though admittedly the PSU shouldn't be under heavy load with that system and a 450W capacity)
Case
PCS DOMINATOR 6806B BLACK CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core G4500 (3.50GHz, 3MB Cache) + HD Graphics
Motherboard
ASUS® H110M-D D3: Micro-ATX, LG1151, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)
8GB Kingston DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 750 Ti - 2 x DVI, mHDMI - 3D Vision Ready
1st Hard Disk
120GB KINGSTON V300 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (450MB/R, 450MB/W)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 450W VS SERIES™ VS-450 POWER SUPPLY
Processor Cooling
INTEL STANDARD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£5)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days
Quantity
1
Price: £393.00 including VAT and delivery.
Unique URL to re-configure: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/intel-skylake-home-office-pc/xFdAFvwAte/
Paired with a dedicated graphics card, Intel CPUs will generally beat AMD ones at the same price point for gaming performance. Also the Pentium seems to beat out the A8-7600 in productivity benchmarks:
http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-pentium-g4400-processor-review-skylake_179724/10
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1270?vs=1256
http://www.3dnews.ru/924775/page-2.html
http://ru.gecid.com/cpu/intel_pentium_g4400/?s=1
So unless your son is doing a lot of video editing he's probably better off with a Pentium. And there's the notional option of being able to pop an i5 in there should you ever want to upgrade.
I'm not sure how quiet any system is going to be with a budget case's fans and a budget PSU (though admittedly the PSU shouldn't be under heavy load with that system and a 450W capacity)
Hi Oussebon,
in fact that looks very well, the ability to upgrade the system in the future is definitely a plus there.
Removing the DVD drive which I don't really need, I could spend a few pounds more on the cooling aspect. What would you advise to go to first, a more silent CPU cooler or maybe a better case?
Thanks for your help,
Chris
in fact that looks very well, the ability to upgrade the system in the future is definitely a plus there.
Removing the DVD drive which I don't really need, I could spend a few pounds more on the cooling aspect. What would you advise to go to first, a more silent CPU cooler or maybe a better case?
Thanks for your help,
Chris
Oussebon
Multiverse Poster
I might have said the case. It would be easier to change the cooler yourself than move the whole build to another case. Also a case with better airflow will help keep the CPU and GPU cooler and quieter anyway.
Maybe the Inwin 503? As it doesn't have openings on the side of the case, and appears to have 3 fans built in (2 front intake, 1 rear exhaust). Perhaps others with more experience can advise if it contains noise better than the cheaper ones.
And potentially go for a 750 Evo SSD instead of the V300 with the few £ left over.
Maybe the Inwin 503? As it doesn't have openings on the side of the case, and appears to have 3 fans built in (2 front intake, 1 rear exhaust). Perhaps others with more experience can advise if it contains noise better than the cheaper ones.
And potentially go for a 750 Evo SSD instead of the V300 with the few £ left over.
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The inWin cases look good and have good reviews. I like the sound insulated case like the silencio and R5 but they are quite expensive. Definitely switch out the V300 as they perform very poorly. You said you don't like the scratching noise of the HDD and I agree with you but you said you have a large HDD to use as a secondary which will make a noise. The WD black is very good and pretty quiet. I mounted mine in a suspension tray which stopped the vibrations amplifying the noise but I could still just about hear the scratch and ended up putting in a large SSD anyway.
Ok, I seem to be able to reach just under 400£ with the following config:
All in all I'm quite happy with that config, thanks a lot for a very interesting discussion!
Cheers,
Chris
I have selected the Coolmaster Silencio case as it has very good reviews, although it't not advertised for gaming on PCspe, does that sound ok?
All in all I'm quite happy with that config, thanks a lot for a very interesting discussion!
Cheers,
Chris