Could you please check this spec' please ?

[Tron1982]

Hellow !

First, please accept the mandatory apologies for the english mistakes ^^"

Then, after a spec check for a friend, and me, now, i'm asking your help for my first sister (and be aware that i'll ask you the same for my other sister in the next month - because she don't have the same needs )

So, after the discovery of the very nice destian, i had a discussion with my sisters about it, and the two of them were really surprised.
And now, they want one.

So, this one is for my sister that is finishing her (his ?) phd far away, on an island (one of those in the pcs shipping list ), and, as for me, she can't know where she will be next year.
She will play game, do work (like coding, VM, and huge data manipulation) and she hope to use it for something like 5 years
(That for the why a DTR and not a desktop)

For the budget, i think it's more or less maxed with the 2300 euros (include vat) because she might take the insurance and so, she need to have some money to pay it

And i have a question, is the 970 evo samsung ssd really better than the 670 intel ?
because it's not on the list but i think we may ask an "upgrade" as they have more or less the same spec

So, this a the spec i'm asking you to review, please ^^

Chassis & Display
Destian Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 240Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 3200MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3070 - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 7000MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB INTEL® 670p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3500MB/sR | 2500MB/sW)
External DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
8x Slim USB 2.0 External DVD-RW
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre European Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Destian Series Detachable 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
2 Channel High Def. Audio + SoundBlaster™ Cinema
Wireless Network Card
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6E AX210 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x USB 3.2 PORT (Type C) + 2 x USB 3.2 PORTS + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT
Keyboard Language
15" DESTIAN SERIES FRENCH KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
France/République Française - French Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Supplied on USB Drive
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Dead Pixel Guarantee
1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs
Chassis
Clevo NH55VRQ (8GB RTX-3070, 240Hz N7, Blank KB)
Delivery
2 DAY DELIVERY TO FRANCE
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 11 working days
Price: 2 280,00 € including VAT and Delivery (the price is from the frensh website, as the vat is not include when i do the configuration on the english one (and i don't know why) - they might be a difference because of the gold warranty price)
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/destian-15/AXsJkbazVe/

Spoiler: french configuration page, if needed

Châssis et affichage
Destian Series : Écran large LED mat 15,6 pouces 240 Hz 72 % NTSC Full HD (1920 x 1080)
Processeur (Unité centrale)
CPU Six cœurs AMD Ryzen 5 5600X (3,7GHz-4,6GHz/35 Mo CACHE/AM4)
Mémoire (RAM)
32 Go Corsair 3200 MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16 Go)
Carte graphique
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3070 - 8 Go de RAM vidéo GDDR6 - DirectX® 12.1
1er disque SSD M.2
1 To SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (jusqu'à 7000 Mo/R, 5000 Mo/W)
1er disque SSD M.2
1 To SSD PCIe M.2 INTEL® 670p NVMe (jusqu'à 3500 Mo/sR | 2500 Mo/sW)
Lecteur DVD/BLU-RAY externe
DVD-RW 8x Slim USB 2.0
Adaptateur C.A.
1 ADAPTATEUR C.A. 230 W
Câble d'alimentation
1 câble d'alimentation européen, 1 m (C13/14)
Batterie
Batterie lithium-ion détachable à 6 cellules série Destian
Pâte thermique
PÂTE THERMIQUE ARCTIC MX-4 EXTRÊME CONDUCTIVITÉ
Carte son
2 Channel High Def. Audio + SoundBlaster™ Cinema
Carte de réseau sans fil
Wi-Fi 6 LAN HAUT DÉBIT ET SANS FIL INTEL® AX210 (2,4 Go/s) + BT 5.0
Options USB/Thunderbolt
1 PORT USB 3.2 (Type C) + 2 PORTS USB 3.2 + 1 PORT USB 2.0
Langue du clavier
CLAVIER FRANCAIS DESTIAN SERIES
Système d’exploitation
Windows 10 Famille 64 bits - Licence mono-utilisateur incluse [KUK-00001]
Langue du système d’exploitation
France/République Française - Français
Support de récupération Windows
Image de restauration multi-langue Windows 10 - Fournie sur clé USB
Logiciel Office
Essai GRATUIT de Microsoft 365® (système d’exploitation requis) pendant 30 jours
Antivirus
PAS D'ANTIVIRUS
Navigateur
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 uniquement)
Clavier et souris
PAVÉ TACTILE 2 BOUTONS INTÉGRÉE
Webcam
WEBCAM INTÉGRÉE 1 MP HD
Garantie
Garantie or de 3 ans (2 ans collection et retour, 2 ans pièces, 3 ans main d'œuvre)
Garantie « pixels morts »
Garantie « pixels morts » de 1 an, frais de main d'œuvre et frais de port compris
Châssis
Clevo NH55VRQ (8GB RTX-3070, 240Hz N7, Blank KB)
Livraison
2 JOUR LIVRAISON EN FRANCE MÉTROPOLITAINE
Délai de construction
Assemblage standard - Environ 10 à 12 jours ouvrables
Prix : 2 281,00 €, TVA et livraison comprises
URL unique pour reconfigurer : https://www.pcspecialist.fr/configurations-sauvegardées/destian-15/4ryTzQWF6c/

Thanks for your attention

 

[sck451]

I can't comment on your whole spec (laptops aren't really my thing) but with your specific question about the 970 Evo and the Intel 670p... They're pretty similar in most cases, except that they've been optimised slightly differently (in terms of queue depth, which you probably don't need to worry about). For performance you'll see very little difference. The significant difference is in terms of endurance: the 1TB 670p is guaranteed for 370TB of writes, whereas the 970 is rated for 600TB. You're unlikely to reach either of these in the lifetime of the machine (to reach the Intel's capacity you'd need to write around 350GB of data every day for three years).

Personally I'd be more than happy with the Intel (even though I have a 970 in my own machine).

 

[Tron1982]

Thanks you very much for your answer !

 

[Tron1982]

little up
pretty please

 

[Tron1982]

Hi, so, i would like to thanks again @Bhuna50 for his help and for his advices even during this dark age of the Force. ^^
You really are awesome !
And for your advice one the ssd matter, thank you too @sck451
For 30ish euros more, my sister agreed for the samsung ssd ^^

And in fact, i think the regulars, here, are really nice people that deserve a thanks as well, just because ! ^^

 

[SpyderTracks]

Hi, so, i would like to thanks again @Bhuna50 for his help and for his advices even during this dark age of the Force. ^^
You really are awesome !
And for your advice one the ssd matter, thank you too @sck451
For 30ish euros more, my sister agreed for the samsung ssd ^^

And in fact, i think the regulars, here, are really nice people that deserve a thanks as well, just because ! ^^

Hiya, really sorry, don't know how this got missed! Do you still need some help with it?

 

[Tron1982]

Hello
It's okay, don't worry, superma ... I mean superbhuna helped me ^^
But advices is always good to take ^^
So, if you want, it will be a pleasure to read what you may say ^^

 

[SpyderTracks]

Hello
It's okay, don't worry, superma ... I mean superbhuna helped me ^^
But advices is always good to take ^^
So, if you want, it will be a pleasure to read what you may say ^^

Looks really good to me, the 3070 is the perfect tier for price / performance, 3080 doesn't actually give her more to make the price increase worthwhile IMHO. 5600x is an amazing processor, perfect for anything you throw at it.

I would personally stick with the intel as the secondary drive, the Samsung are very expensive and still gen 3 so capped at 3500mbs anyway.

But all in all its really well balanced, I wouldn't change a thing.

 

[Tron1982]

Thank you, I learned from the best here

But, really, for the ssd ?
You're the second one to tell me that, do you think it will last at least 5 years ?
Or maybe it would be good to go for a 2to 980 ssd ?

 

[SpyderTracks]

Thank you, I learned from the best here

But, really, for the ssd ?
You're the second one to tell me that, do you think it will last at least 5 years ?
Or maybe it would be good to go for a 2to 980 ssd ?

What are you suing the second sss for?

 

[Tron1982]

Well, as I always saw you advice the use of 2 ssd, I though it was the best option
I think she will use the second ssd the first drive to the os, game and software and the second one for data storage

I just checked the price of one 2TO 980ssd, it would be to expensive, so, let's forget it ^^"

 

[Martinr36]

if you're just using it a games drive, then stick with 670p

 

[Tron1982]

For the "personnal" use, yes
But it's likely that she will use it for a "professionnal" use too (and she's working with huge dna map, that can be over the GO each)
At least at the begining of any new contract i think ^^"

 

[Bhuna50]

Sorry Tron - I mentioned the Samsung 970 as your second drive - not the 980 - there is only a £25 difference I think between the 2TB Samsung 970 and the 2TB Intel 670.

 

[Tron1982]

Sorry Tron - I mentioned the Samsung 970 as your second drive - not the 980 - there is only a £25 difference I think between the 2TB Samsung 970 and the 2TB Intel 670.

Now, the difference between the 1TO 970 and the 1TO intel is 34 euros
So, the 980 as primary drive is the best i think
As for the secondary drive, the question is, is the intel good (look like it's a "yes) or the 970 would do better (or it's not worthy to bother, as it would imply to overide the quotation by a pcs staff member and it would be downgraded by the pcie port)

 

[SpyderTracks]

Now, the difference between the 1TO 970 and the 1TO intel is 34 euros

If write endurance is important then it's probably worth it, but not for speed I wouldn't say.

 

[Tron1982]

If write endurance is important then it's probably worth it, but not for speed I wouldn't say.

So, this answer that ^^

 

[Tron1982]

So, anyway, thank you all, again, for your advices, review and the time you spent to do it.
I know i'm repeating myself, but you all are really nice and i know why i'm still here even after receiving my lapotp !
Thanks !

 

[Tron1982]

Hey, just for the intel, i just saw that now, the destian can be configured with the 970 samsung ssd ^^
it will be easier for my sis \o/


So sorry about the triple posting ^^"