Considering possible CPU and GPU upgrades

[films&games]

Hi,

My full spec is below.

Case	CORSAIR OBSIDIAN SERIES™ 750D FULL TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard	ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)	16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card	8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive	3TB SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive	1TB CORSAIR MP600 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 4950MB/R, 4250MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive	16x BLU-RAY WRITER DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW & SOFTWARE
Power Supply	CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable	1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling	CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste	STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
LED Lighting	50cm RGB LED Strip
Sound Card	ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking	10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options	MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System	Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language	United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media	Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software	FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus	BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser	Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Monitor	IIYAMA G-MASTER GB2760QSU-B1 27"
Warranty	3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)

I am thinking of possibly upgrading my CPU to a Ryzen 7 5800x and GPU to a 8GB Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti.

Would these upgrades be worth it condsidering my current PCS spec?

Or would a different CPU/GPU be a better option?

My monitor is 1440p and 144Hz.

Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated, please.

Thank you.

 

[DarTon]

In performance terms you'd see a decent uplift. Say 20-25% in CPU terms and anything between 20-35% in GPU performance. The 3070 or 3070Ti are the 1440p, high refresh rate GPUs of choice and the 5800X is almost the ideal CPU now that consoles are going 8 core.

One issue is cooling. The MB is fine for the 5800X but I'd want a better AIO than the Masterliquid Lite 240. Preferably a Corsair H115i.

Second, the draw on the PSU will rise. The PPL of the 3700X is 88W vs. 5800X at > 140W, while the difference in TDP between the 3070Ti and 2070 Super is 75W. That takes you from 60% max usage which is very comfortable to 75% which is tolerable but you should expect higher noise and possibly less longevity. The 3070 with a TDP of just 220W, only 5W more than the 2070 Super, would be a much more comfortable fit with a 750W PSU but provide marginally less uplift in GPU terms.

I don't know. It just seems quite a lot of money replacing the CPU, GPU and cooler for only a one generation improvement. Especially when silicon prices, especially GPU prices, are very high. I'd think I'd be waiting here for the 4000 series GPUs and possibly a refresh of the 5000 series CPU. I generally want to skip at least one generation before upgrading anything, preferably more.

 

[sck451]

On the one hand, that's probably the correct upgrade to do, though the 5900X is also a possibility. On the other hand, what are you actually trying to accomplish? What problems are you facing that you want to fix?

 

[SpyderTracks]

I personally wouldn't upgrade anything, that system is barely out of the box.

The important question is WHY are you looking to upgrade? What performance impact are you seeing?

 

[films&games]

Would it be worth upgrading my CPU and GPU for better performance and to future proof?

What would the 5900x (12 cores) give me in terms of performance over the 5800x (8 cores), considering I currently have the 3700x and my PC is used mainly for gaming?

I sent back my PC over 2 weeks ago via RMA to PCS. This is why I am considering these possible upgrades.

I have already requested an upgrade to a Corsair H115i RGB Pro XT - because my CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 leaked on to my motherboard and GPU.

If I did choose to upgrade my CPU and GPU as well, should I upgrade my PSU?

Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated, please.

Thank you.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Would it be worth upgrading my CPU and GPU for better performance and to future proof?

What better performance though? What is lacking with your current configuration?

 

[films&games]

What better performance though? What is lacking with your current configuration?

Nothing at the moment, but I am thinking about newer games that will be coming out in the next 6 months and beyond.

What would the performance gain be going from a series 3000 to series 5000 Ryzen CPU?

 

[SpyderTracks]

Nothing at the moment, but I am thinking about newer games that will be coming out in the next 6 months and beyond.

What would the performance gain be going from a series 3000 to series 5000 Ryzen CPU?

I would strongly suggest not upgrading anything. There is nothing that would warrant an upgrade if you’re not seeing any issues.

For gaming there would be very little benefit. I’d wait for at least 4000 series gpu, but your processor is fine for the long term.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Just as an explanation to the above for some further clarity.

When designing a good system, which yours is, the platform (motherboard, cpu, RAM and PSU) should be in mind for a lifetime of the build which is around 7 to 10 years. If you need to upgrade any of those components during that time, then the build was poorly specced, or there's been some significant development which deems it worthwhile before lifes end. Your system is well designed, you don't need to worry about the platform til it's grinding to a halt and you need a new computer.

The GPU is perfectly suited to 1440p. If you're not seeing any performance impact on the games you play, then there's no need to upgrade currently. In a normal everyday use (ie non competitive) system, you would normally upgrade the GPU say every other generation so roughly every 3 - 4 years.

Competitive players would usually upgrade every generation, but they're not bothered about screen matching or visuals, they're purely concentrating on getting the highest FPS available.

You don't upgrade just because there's something new out, you upgrade because your system isn't performing in the way you need it to for the games you play and the visuals you're expecting.