Check my Config - Upgrade Vyper to Elimina

[marrob864]

Hi,

What do you reckon ?

This will be used mostly for work, gaming and photography. Needs to be light, thin, portable and multi-purpose with lots of headroom for future growth. This will be an upgrade from a Vyper which is not available now - that's been good. I had a Recoil that was a disaster and I hated the clicky mechanical keyboard.

Work: lots of remote working, video conferencing, hosting events online.
Gaming: Top game at the moment World of Tanks and World of Warships, might migrate to other games. Mostly RPG and sims - not FPS.
Leisure: a LOT of photography, image and graphics, publishing and video editing (mostly short clips). Photography collection = several hundred GB and growing fast.

I had a brief look at the Elimina Pro but prefer the widescreen rather than 16x10.
What about the Lafite Pro ? Is that worth considering ?

EDIT: There's the new Recoil 16 (see later post in this thread). That looks a better bet but has 16x10 screen and I did have a bad experience with a Recoil previously so am wary.
For info. I have a healthy budget, and could pay max £3.5-4k for the right machine... but think I ought to be able to get what I want in the £2.5-£3k ballpark. I assume my selection of size / weight will naturally constrain the price more than my budget.


Chassis & Display
Elimina Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 14 Core Processor 12700H (4.7GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 3200MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3060 - 6.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated Micro-SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor
1 x 180W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre Cloverleaf UK Power Cable
Battery
Elimina Series Integrated 54WH Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
2 Channel High Def. Audio + SoundBlaster™ Cinema
Wireless Network Card
GIGABIT LAN & KILLER™ Wi-Fi 6E AX1675 M.2 GAMING + BLUETOOTH 5.3
USB/Thunderbolt Options
2 x USB 3.2 PORTS (Type C) + 1 x USB 3.2 PORT + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT
Keyboard Language
ELIMINA 15" SERIES MULTI COLOUR BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 11 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Supplied on USB Drive
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
Logitech® HD Webcam C930e - 1080p recording, supports H.264
Kensington Lock
Kensington Combination Ultra Laptop Lock
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Dead Pixel Guarantee
1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs
Chassis
Clevo NP50PNP (6GB RTX-3060, i7-12700H, AX201, 144Hz N7, Blank KB)
Delivery
TIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI (BEFORE 2PM)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days
Price: £2,206.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/elimina-iv-15/szcNm9xjTK/

 

[steaky360]

Hi just a wee bump as this might have gotten missed by other forum folk

 

[Tron1982]

Sorry, I missed your post ...
I'm at work, so i'll make a longer post tonight, but :
- maybe it would be worth it to wait a little to have the latest cpu and gpu
- i read on the forum that the 990pro may have a default, so, you may want to go for the 980pro

oh, and what's your maximum budget ?

 

[marrob864]

Sorry, I missed your post ...
I'm at work, so i'll make a longer post tonight, but :
- maybe it would be worth it to wait a little to have the latest cpu and gpu
- i read on the forum that the 990pro may have a default, so, you may want to go for the 980pro

oh, and what's your maximum budget ?

I don't have a budget as such. I can pay what I need to pay for what I need.

How long for the latest cpu/gpu do you reckon ?

Are there alternative chasis I should look at ? Lafite Pro ? I'm thinking not.

 

[SpyderTracks]

I don't have a budget as such. I can pay what I need to pay for what I need.

So if we say up to £8000?

You have a budget, everyone does, we need a fixed ceiling to work to please otherwise it tends to be a chorus of "how can I reduce cost"

 

[marrob864]

So if we say up to £8000?

You have a budget, everyone does, we need a fixed ceiling to work to please otherwise it tends to be a chorus of "how can I reduce cost"

I'm after a laptop... I'm after a 15-16" laptop... if you find me an £8000 laptop here at pcspecialist that fits that bill I'd like to hear.

I'm in the meantime any feedback on my spec ?

 

[sck451]

Well, the things I'd question are:

• the storage: do you need 2TB of 990 Pros? Awesome for the operating system, but a bit mad for more general storage. What's more, there's been quite a bit in the news about them failing...
• the external webcam: do you need this on top of the built-in laptop webcam?
• for photo and video editing, are you satisfied with a 1080p display?

 

[Tron1982]

So, as i said, you may want to wait a little bit for the next gen gpu/cpu laptop
Or you can get a 16" recoil, but, it may be to thick ?

But if you really want this one, as i said, change your ssd for the 980pro
the screen may not be the best
I guess the cpu and gpu are good for your need

so, this is what i think, you may go for this elimina with our suggestion
or you may wait a little bit for a better laptop (or you can go for the 16" recoil, that's different for the first one you had)

 

[SpyderTracks]

I'm after a laptop... I'm after a 15-16" laptop... if you find me an £8000 laptop here at pcspecialist that fits that bill I'd like to hear.

I'm in the meantime any feedback on my spec ?

I don't understand the difficulty, you're going for a mid range laptop. Why? If your budget is restricting, then it would be helpful to know what that budget is so that we can maximise while keeping you within your desired ceiling. As if your budget is higher, then a different chassis would offer much better performance. But there must be a reason why you opted for the cheapest chassis available.

The Vyper to the Elimina is a downgrade, not an upgrade.

But obviously this is of no importance to you.

I don't have a budget as such. I can pay what I need to pay for what I need.

This literally means nothing to anyone but you, we don't know you, we have no idea what you need vs your budget. This is literally a how long is this piece of string comment.

I'll bow out. Don't understand some people.

 

[SpyderTracks]

I'm posting this for other peoples benefit. The max budget is not for your benefit, it's for ours, over many many years of not asking for one and then months later still having to adjust things and scrap previous suggestions just because the user has changed their mind of what's agreeable or constantly wants to penny pinch we've learnt that agreeing that at the outset makes it far easier for us to give accurate suggestions, and to save our own time.

This may not be of importance to you, but all of us are doing this out of our own time, for your benefit. It's not for us to meet your whims, it's for you to make it as easy for us to help you as much as possible. And it's as much for us to prevent our valuable time from being wasted.

A max budget tells us a ceiling we can't go beyond. We'll suggest whatever best is available within that range.

A max is a single figure you're not willing to go beyond, it's not anything that can move or a range, it's a concrete ceiling. So 1k+ doesn't mean anything. If it's over 1k then what is it? It's a singular value, not a range of any sort.

 

[marrob864]

Well, the things I'd question are:

• the storage: do you need 2TB of 990 Pros? Awesome for the operating system, but a bit mad for more general storage. What's more, there's been quite a bit in the news about them failing...
• the external webcam: do you need this on top of the built-in laptop webcam?
• for photo and video editing, are you satisfied with a 1080p display?

I hear your comments re 990.
On my current laptop I have 2TB 970 pro - and am currently at around 1.25Tb - at current rates of increase I will surpass 1.5TB within the next year or so (I tend to consider anything above 75% usage as 'full' and time to upgrade).
I guess from your comments a smaller primary drive (eg a 980) with a larger but lower performance for the secondary might be a better config.
Re web cam... I may get this separately.... yes, for work I am hosting video conferences and the like and need to hook the device to better quality webcam, mic and sound system. TBH I may delete this from the order and buy separately. I've been looking at buying a Neat Board.

Neat Board

Neat designs simple and elegant video devices that make virtual meetings feel almost as real as meeting face-to-face, seamlessly bringing rich and meaningful experiences to people’s work, interactions and lives across any meeting space.

neat.no

For photo video editing - a better display would be better but the weight and 15-16" size are more important to me than portability. 1080 is satisfactory for my client needs.

 

[marrob864]

I'm posting this for other peoples benefit. The max budget is not for your benefit, it's for ours, over many many years of not asking for one and then months later still having to adjust things and scrap previous suggestions just because the user has changed their mind of what's agreeable or constantly wants to penny pinch we've learnt that agreeing that at the outset makes it far easier for us to give accurate suggestions, and to save our own time.

This may not be of importance to you, but all of us are doing this out of our own time, for your benefit. It's not for us to meet your whims, it's for you to make it as easy for us to help you as much as possible. And it's as much for us to prevent our valuable time from being wasted.

A max budget tells us a ceiling we can't go beyond. We'll suggest whatever best is available within that range.

A max is a single figure you're not willing to go beyond, it's not anything that can move or a range, it's a concrete ceiling. So 1k+ doesn't mean anything. If it's over 1k then what is it? It's a singular value, not a range of any sort.

I don't think budget is going to be the limiting factor but if you need a figure then I'll say £4000.
If you came up with something more than £4000 then I'd raise my eyebrows but it wouldn't necessarily be a barrier to purchase.
I think other factors that are important to me will constraint the spec more than budget will.

For me the PRIMARY considerations are:

- 15-16" size and weight (<2.5kg and less is better) [that is because I travel quite a bit for work purposes and portability is a consideration, I don't want to be lugging around something large and heavy]

- large storage (I'm already using 1.25Tb out of 2Tb and will be growing at >200Gb per year) - [my photography and video work creates a lot of storage needs - storage of material that I need to hand when travelling and I prefer to keep local rather than in the cloud]

- high performance for my graphics, video conferencing and gaming needs [video conference hosting in Zoom and MS Teams, photography editing in RAW using adobe suite, simple video production, gaming - currently world of tanks, assassins creed]

- prefer a 4k card capability even if the built in display is 1080 as it will most often be used plugged into an external monitor - preference for built-in widescreen

The spec I selected is 'mid-range' only in order to fit into the size and weight parameters. I have more recently looked at a Recoil 16" which does seem to give a higher spec albeit at the cost of weight, and it having a 16x10 rather than widescreen display. I am nervous of a Recoil as I had a bad experience with a Recoil about 4 years ago that had to go back through RMA return several times before being having to be replaced. It also had a loud mechanical keyboard but it doesn't look as if the Recoil 16 includes that.

So here's the alternative Recoil :
Chassis & Display
Recoil Series: 16" Matte QHD 240Hz sRGB 100% LED Widescreen (2560x1600)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 24 Core Processor 13900HX (5.4GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 4800MHz SODIMM DDR5 (1 x 32GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 4090 - 16.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 7000MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3300 MB/R, 2900 MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor
1 x 330W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Recoil Series Integrated 99WH Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
LIQUID METAL PERFORMANCE COOLING
Sound Card
Nahimic by SteelSeries 2 Channel HD Audio
Wireless Network Card
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6E AX211 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.3
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x THUNDERBOLT 4 PORT + 3 x USB 3.2 PORTS
Keyboard Language
RECOIL 16 SERIES RGB BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Dead Pixel Guarantee
1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs
Chassis
TongFang GM6PX9X (16GB RTX-4090, i9-13900HX, 240Hz QHD)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 7 working days

 

[Tron1982]

Hello
I'd change :
- the secondary ssd for something better (like an other 980)
- the RAM, from 1x32 to 2x16 Go

Otherwise, it look good ^^

I hope i answered some of your questions ^^