8GB AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT vs 6GB Nvidia Geforce RTX 2060

[Bellboy]

Hi guys, pretty much decided on what I'm going to order for my PC (first real one!!!) except for what graphics card to get. Conflicted between the two in the title. Admittedly a large part of this is cause it looks like nearly all the ones more advanced are sold out and no one had any idea when they'll be in stock. The plan is to order a 1440p monitor as well, so with that information which card do you think would serve me better? 8GB is better than 6GB obviously, but I've also heard that DLSS is basically a requirement for Cyberpunk, so I'm uncertain.

Of course, I do have a spare 1080p monitor lying at home I could pick up, if ye think that would serve me better given the two options available. Just looking to get some more insight into this, been agonizing over it a while. Thanks!

 

[SpyderTracks]

Hi guys, pretty much decided on what I'm going to order for my PC (first real one!!!) except for what graphics card to get. Conflicted between the two in the title. Admittedly a large part of this is cause it looks like nearly all the ones more advanced are sold out and no one had any idea when they'll be in stock. The plan is to order a 1440p monitor as well, so with that information which card do you think would serve me better? 8GB is better than 6GB obviously, but I've also heard that DLSS is basically a requirement for Cyberpunk, so I'm uncertain.

Of course, I do have a spare 1080p monitor lying at home I could pick up, if ye think that would serve me better given the two options available. Just looking to get some more insight into this, been agonizing over it a while. Thanks!

Is this a PCSpecialist build? Can you post the full specs?

 

[Bellboy]

Is this a PCSpecialist build? Can you post the full specs?

Will do, here you go;

Case
FRACTAL DEFINE 7 BLACK QUIET MID-TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X Eight Core CPU (3.9GHz-4.5GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB AMD RADEON™ RX 5700 XT - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
1st Storage Drive
500GB Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
2x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Monitor
IIYAMA G2730HSU-B1 27" Gaming Monitor
Monitor Cables
1 x 2 METRE GOLD PLATED V1.4 HDMI CABLE
Keyboard & Mouse
LOGITECH® MK270 WIRELESS KEYBOARD & MOUSE COMBO
Mouse Pad
PCS Mouse Mat
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 16 to 18 working days

This is my first time getting a real PC, so if there's something I'm missing or have done wrong in the overall build I would appreciate the advice with that as well!

 

[SpyderTracks]

I wouldn't recommend either card, they're last generation and vastly outperformed by current generation at the same cost.

If it were me, I would get the 3060ti which is FAAAAAR better than either at 1440p.

 

[SpyderTracks]

There's a lot you can change on that build to better balance it.

If you can include the configuration link at the bottom of the quote, I can then amend it.

 

[Martinr36]

What's your budget as well

 

[Bellboy]

I wouldn't recommend either card, they're last generation and vastly outperformed by current generation at the same cost.

If it were me, I would get the 3060ti which is FAAAAAR better than either at 1440p.

I suppose that makes sense yeah. My main concern was it looks like no one knows when the 3060s would actually be in stock, so I could be waiting months and months for it to arrive, and I guess patience isn't my strong suit.

Still, might be best to just bite the bullet and wait the extra period.

This the link you're looking for? https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/vFRJuzyyKn/

 

[Bellboy]

What's your budget as well

Around ‎€2000 before VAT

 

[SpyderTracks]

This is better balanced and leaves you a healthy budget for a suitable 1440p monitor from elsewhere (PCS stock isn't that great at the minute):

Case
FRACTAL DEFINE 7 BLACK QUIET MID-TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X Eight Core CPU (3.9GHz-4.5GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB AMD RADEON™ RX 5700 XT - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
1st Storage Drive
500GB Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
2x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Monitor
IIYAMA G2730HSU-B1 27" Gaming Monitor
Monitor Cables
1 x 2 METRE GOLD PLATED V1.4 HDMI CABLE
Keyboard & Mouse
LOGITECH® MK270 WIRELESS KEYBOARD & MOUSE COMBO
Mouse Pad
PCS Mouse Mat
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 16 to 18 working days
Price: €2,256.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/mR!G0eTrna/

 

[SpyderTracks]

What's your budget for the monitor with that new cost?

 

[Bellboy]

This is better balanced and leaves you a healthy budget for a suitable 1440p monitor from elsewhere (PCS stock isn't that great at the minute):

Case
FRACTAL DEFINE 7 BLACK QUIET MID-TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X Eight Core CPU (3.9GHz-4.5GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB AMD RADEON™ RX 5700 XT - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
1st Storage Drive
500GB Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
2x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Monitor
IIYAMA G2730HSU-B1 27" Gaming Monitor
Monitor Cables
1 x 2 METRE GOLD PLATED V1.4 HDMI CABLE
Keyboard & Mouse
LOGITECH® MK270 WIRELESS KEYBOARD & MOUSE COMBO
Mouse Pad
PCS Mouse Mat
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 16 to 18 working days
Price: €2,256.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/mR!G0eTrna/

Perfect, thanks a load! Looking around the forum it looks like I may be waiting a long while for the 3060 to be in stock, but probably better that wait then pay for obsolete tech I guess.

I reckon I can stretch my budget out to around €250-270 for a monitor.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Sorry, the configurator had reset a load of things in that last quote, here's an updated one, are there any accessories missing that you need?

Case
FRACTAL DEFINE 7 BLACK QUIET MID-TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X Eight Core CPU (3.9GHz-4.5GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 Ti - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA 120 2.5" SSD, (up to 560MB/sR | 540MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 16 to 18 working days
Price: €2,113.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/H!w67PbZmQ/

 

[Bellboy]

Sorry, the configurator had reset a load of things in that last quote, here's an updated one, are there any accessories missing that you need?

Case
FRACTAL DEFINE 7 BLACK QUIET MID-TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X Eight Core CPU (3.9GHz-4.5GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 Ti - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA 120 2.5" SSD, (up to 560MB/sR | 540MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 16 to 18 working days
Price: €2,113.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/H!w67PbZmQ/

Perfect. I don't think there is any other accessories I need? Plan to use it pretty much just for gaming. I've got a pretty standard keyboard and mouse here that I can use at the start anyway, can upgrade them later if I feel the need to. Pretty much the only other thing I need is a monitor. Was looking to upgrade to 1440p, but if needs must I think I can be happy with 1080p for the foreseeable future, and just upgrade whenever is convenient.

I presume the build should be pretty sorted for that? As you may be able to tell I'm pretty much an amateur at this. Now the main thing is to hope Nvidia ship out enough graphic cards in the new year ;-;.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Perfect. I don't think there is any other accessories I need? Plan to use it pretty much just for gaming. I've got a pretty standard keyboard and mouse here that I can use at the start anyway, can upgrade them later if I feel the need to. Pretty much the only other thing I need is a monitor. Was looking to upgrade to 1440p, but if needs must I think I can be happy with 1080p for the foreseeable future, and just upgrade whenever is convenient.

I presume the build should be pretty sorted for that? As you may be able to tell I'm pretty much an amateur at this. Now the main thing is to hope Nvidia ship out enough graphic cards in the new year ;-;.

The build is perfect for 1440p 144Hz, with the adjusted price, what's your budget for a monitor as the new spec is quite substantially cheaper than previous. Don't scrimp on the monitor, for a half decent 1440p 144Hz, you're looking around £350. The one I would normally recommend is around £420

 

[Bellboy]

The build is perfect for 1440p 144Hz, with the adjusted price, what's your budget for a monitor as the new spec is quite substantially cheaper than previous. Don't scrimp on the monitor, for a half decent 1440p 144Hz, you're looking around £350. The one I would normally recommend is around £420

A bit more expensive than I expected, but probably doable. I think I should be able to afford around €400-450 for a monitor. It would put me a bit over-budget but not massively so.

 

[SpyderTracks]

This is the one I think is worth far more than it costs, it has full HDR10 support which is a really high end feature usually only found on panels costing significantly more:

ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ HDR Gaming Monitor 27 Inch WQHD (2560 x 1440), IPS, 165Hz*, Extreme Low Motion Blur Sync G-SYNC Compatible, Adaptive-Sync, 1ms (MPRT), HDR10, Black: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

Buy

www.amazon.co.uk

Or a bit lower cost, with obvious panel sacrifices but still excellent monitors:

PC Monitors | Computer Monitors & Screens | Samsung United Kingdom

Browse the full range of PC monitors, desktop computer monitors & screens. Compare models by price, specs & features. Plus, enjoy free delivery at Samsung UK.

www.samsung.com

Gigabyte G27QC 27" Curved VA QHD (2560x1440) 165 Hz FreeSync Compatible Gaming Monitor, Black: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

Buy

www.amazon.co.uk

Or the same in 32":

GIGABYTE G32QC Curved 3‎1.5" VA 1500R QHD (2560x1440) 165Hz 1ms FreeSync Gaming Monitor, Black: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

Buy

www.amazon.co.uk

 

[Bellboy]

This is the one I think is worth far more than it costs, it has full HDR10 support which is a really high end feature usually only found on panels costing significantly more:

ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ HDR Gaming Monitor 27 Inch WQHD (2560 x 1440), IPS, 165Hz*, Extreme Low Motion Blur Sync G-SYNC Compatible, Adaptive-Sync, 1ms (MPRT), HDR10, Black: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

Buy

www.amazon.co.uk

Or a bit lower cost, with obvious panel sacrifices but still excellent monitors:

https://www.samsung.com/uk/monitors...DfzFMuRySxhBTZuuuixoC5BwQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Gigabyte G27QC 27" Curved VA QHD (2560x1440) 165 Hz FreeSync Compatible Gaming Monitor, Black: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

Buy

www.amazon.co.uk

Or the same in 32":

GIGABYTE G32QC Curved 3‎1.5" VA 1500R QHD (2560x1440) 165Hz 1ms FreeSync Gaming Monitor, Black: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

Buy

www.amazon.co.uk

Oof, that first one looks really, really tempting. It's probably better for my wallet if I went for the Odyssey or the Gigabyte G27QC though. Kinda leaning towards the Odyssey just cause the name sounds cooler! Still, I might go for that HDR10 monitor anyway; it looks pretty class.

You've been a massive help! Not sure what mishmash PC I would have ended up with if not for your help. Thanks a load.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Oof, that first one looks really, really tempting. It's probably better for my wallet if I went for the Odyssey or the Gigabyte G27QC though. Kinda leaning towards the Odyssey just cause the name sounds cooler! Still, I might go for that HDR10 monitor anyway; it looks pretty class.

You've been a massive help! Not sure what mishmash PC I would have ended up with if not for your help. Thanks a load.

Your build was very close to spot on actually, didn't need much changing, very good first effort!

 

[SpyderTracks]

Further response:

I'm amazed to see the Samsung G5 includes full HDR10!!! I'm bowled over. It's quite typical of Samsung to pack in a lot for the money as they're one of the few who makes their own panels, but even so, cramming it in at such a reasonable budget is nothing short of incredible! I would choose the Samsung over the Asus knowing that. The only difference is that the Samsung is a VA panel whereas the Asus is a higher end IPS.

 

[Martinr36]

I've recently got the G5 as my introduction to 1440p and am loving it