1080p Gaming/some rendering work: Thoughts and suggestions?

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Lockstar

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So I’m going to be doing loads of gaming and quite a bit of rendering and 3D modelling on this PC, my old one did alright, but was based off majorly old hardware. Now it’s time for an upgrade! What’s your opinion on whether I would need liquid cooling in this build (e.g. h60 or h80i)? Thank you!

Case
PCS CYCLONE GAMING CASE (Blue LED Fans)

Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i3 Quad Core Processor i3-8350K (4.00GHz) 6MB Cache

Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME Z370-P: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs

Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 4GB)

Graphics Card
3GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1060 - DVI, HDMI, 3 x DP

1st Hard Disk
3TB SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE

DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED

Power Supply
CORSAIR 350W VS SERIES™ VS-350 POWER SUPPLY

Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)

Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212X (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler

Thermal Paste
EK-TIM ECTOTHERM THERMAL COMPOUND

Extra Case Fans
1x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)

Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)

USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KK3-00002]

Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language

Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account

Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE

Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE

Browser
Google Chrome™

Keyboard & Mouse
ASUS Cerberus Keyboard & Mouse Bundle

Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)

Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)

Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 8 to 10 working days

Quantity
1

Price £927.00 including VAT and delivery

Power Consumption: Around 290W

I’ll be pairing it with a 1080p 60Hz 2ms TN monitor, not too sure on the model to be honest, only says Generic PNP monitor in device manager.

If anything, I’d prefer to lower the price, but suggest anything you wish and I’ll seriously consider it.
 
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RDJDJRJ

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I would strongly advice an i5 min for 3d rendering. What is your budget? The i3 will do the job however you will get much more performance with an i5
What 3d rendering are you thinking of using, C4D, blender, after effects?
 
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Lockstar

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Unreal Engine 4 (game engine, involves rendering and good editor performance) and Maya 2018 (3D modelling, rendering and good editor performance). But the i3 8350k is a much better workstation CPU than the i5 I currently have. I have the i5 750. And also, you'll need to be more specific. For example, later generation i3's are supremely better than earlier i5's at anything, so you'll need to specify a model of i5? This is also a better value for my money and I game a lot.
 
SpyderTracks

SpyderTracks

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Lockstar said:
Unreal Engine 4 (game engine, involves rendering and good editor performance) and Maya 2018 (3D modelling, rendering and good editor performance). But the i3 8350k is a much better workstation CPU than the i5 I currently have. I have the i5 750. And also, you'll need to be more specific. For example, later generation i3's are supremely better than earlier i5's at anything, so you'll need to specify a model of i5? This is also a better value for my money and I game a lot.
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We're only referencing current gen intel processors, but i'd strongly reiterate what RDJDJRJ says, i3 will be woeful for you usage.
 
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Lockstar

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It's still a massive workstation improvement compared to my current setup.

And also, it's a fantastic gaming CPU, which is my mine use. Rendering, etc. is mainly on the side.
 
SpyderTracks

SpyderTracks

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Lockstar said:
It's still a massive workstation improvement compared to my current setup
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Almost all processors in the current gen will be an improvement, that doesn't mean you select a poor processor for the task.

For rendering and modelling you need hyperthreading which isn't present on the i3's. Plus you're missing out on 2 extra cores which will make a huge improvement to overall performance.
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

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The i3 8350k is a terrible buy.

It's only £16 cheaper than an i5 8400. :/

Note that the i5 8400 boosts to 4GHz single core, 3.9GHz 2-4C, and 3.8GHz across all 6 cores. The base speed is somewhat deceptive thanks to the pretty strong boost clocks.

Go with the i5 8400 instead at the very least.

As well as being a huge asset for rendering, it will also be very useful for gaming futureproofing.

A 350W PSU will severely limit future upgrade options for the GPU especially. Go with 550W (since it's ~£3 more than 450W)

You don't need water
 
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Lockstar

Silver Level Poster
neither the i5 8400 or i5 8600k have hyperthreading.

The only i5 processors that have hyperthreading are 7th gen, and (for example) the i7 7400 is actually deemed less of a workstation cpu than the i3 8350K.

Not to mention the significantly higher base clock speed.
 
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Oussebon

Oussebon

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No, but neither does the i3 8350k.

My point is only that if you are about to buy the 8350k - at least buy the 8400 instead.

The 8400 and 8600k at least have 2 more physical cores
 
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Lockstar

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However, the 8350K absolutely smashes the 8400 in single and quad core tasks, it only JUST loses in multi-core because of the 8400's two extra cores and threads. I see no need to pay more for a processor that will barely benefit me in rendering (when my current one can do it fairly well) and also, gaming is my main purpose. This CPU is fine for the job
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

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...? It doesn't :/ It really, really doesn't, where on earth are you getting that from?

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Note Cinebench single and multithreaded benches.... and all the other benches...
https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2049?vs=2024

Think about it logically. The 8400 boosts to the same frequency for single core, and to all-but the same frequency for upto 4 cores, with 3.8GHz across all 6. How on earth could it get "smashed" in that context. Plus the larger L3 cache.

The i3 is barely better than the i5 8400 in straight up singlethreaded synthetic tasks. And loses out big time in gaming, rendering, and everything else.
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Oussebon

Oussebon

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Userbenchmark also, if I recall correctly, lumps together all results from that CPU type. So everyone who overclocked their i3 8350k to 5GHz on custom loops or LN2 or whatever will be included in the results and averaged out. It's like carrying out a science experiment in totally uncontrolled conditions, with different equipment each time.

Probably why it looks better than the i5 8400 in single threaded, which very few people will have bothered overclocking.

Whereas in reality:
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http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/intel-core-i3-8350k-cpu,review-34095-8.html

Userbenchmark, Game Debate, CPUboss and GPUboss are all best avoided.

There's nothing wrong with a synthetic test - after all, Cinebench is used on almost every review site - but Userbenchmark is just garbage sadly.

Fun to do though if you have overclocked and want an ego stroke.

But anyone spending the cash to OC an 8350k that high should probably just buy an i5 8600k and do the same...
 
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