£1500 budget

[Sanjeet]

“I don’t know much about the AMD GPU’s”. Realistically I’m in the same boat. Checking benchmarks is about the only way to gauge it for me. It never seems to be below the 3060TI it’s generally between the 3080 and 3070 from memory. As we normally recommend a 3070 to max out a 1440p 144hz monitor the 6700XT will do an amazing job at it and may be considered overkill, but it is also £30 cheaper at its current price so represents great value. (I wouldn’t be surprised if that shoots up). I normally use all of Tech Spots reviews for benchmarks as it shows it against a great range of cards on a number of games. Their review can be found here

As @SpyderTracks has said, you’ll be waiting a while anyway. Due to the sheer amount of orders there’s just a long queue. There’s a chance that they’ll do the same for the 6700XT as they did for the 3060 and get orders out very quickly when they had stock of that card to try and reduce the average wait times a bit, but I don’t want to say I know they’ll do that, because I obviously don’t.

The other thing that should be a consideration, is that the 3060TI can’t even be ordered right now. Why that is I’m unsure, maybe to reduce the queue size a bit, maybe they didn’t know when the next delivery was going to be so put orders on hold. Realistically that’s speculation from me and it could be any number of reasons.

What I’d say is go for the build you want and accept the wait. If you want a 6700XT go for it. If you’d rather a 3060TI, just take the wait. If you play your cards right, that PC that should last you 6 or more years if upgraded correctly so in the grand scheme of things, A few month wait is not a lot of time. Plus you’ll be happier in the long run when you go for the spec you actually wanted over one you got to get the PC quickly.

Haha that is exactly what I was doing too to find out about the card. And yeah I agree with everything you’ve just said 😂. I think I’d prefer to have an rtx and I’ve been waiting about 4 months already so what’s a few more right? Like you said don’t wanna rush into a decision. Thank you for your time and help. Very much appreciated

 

[JUNI0R]

Haha that is exactly what I was doing too to find out about the card. And yeah I agree with everything you’ve just said 😂. I think I’d prefer to have an rtx and I’ve been waiting about 4 months already so what’s a few more right? Like you said don’t wanna rush into a decision. Thank you for your time and help. Very much appreciated

You're welcome! And exactly, I feel a lot of us are playing the waiting game so it'll be nice when it gets back to some sort of normality. Let us know when you decide to go ahead with a purchse. We'd be happy to help you out!

 

[Sanjeet]

You're welcome! And exactly, I feel a lot of us are playing the waiting game so it'll be nice when it gets back to some sort of normality. Let us know when you decide to go ahead with a purchse. We'd be happy to help you out!

For sure I will!

 

[Sanjeet]

Hello again
Is there any real benefit of going for a ryzen 7 5800x instead of a 5600x for 1440p gaming at 144hz. Is it worth the £150 extra. I know the 5600x is a really good cpu but how futureproof is it. And same with this motherboard for any upgrades I may want to do further down the line

Case
LIAN LI LANCOOL 215 GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060TI - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RM SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
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Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
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NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Subject to stock availability on pre-order products
Price: £1,637.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/U0ZTmYjKrA/

 

[Sanjeet]

Hello again
Is there any real benefit of going for a ryzen 7 5800x instead of a 5600x for 1440p gaming at 144hz. Is it worth the £150 extra. I know the 5600x is a really good cpu but how futureproof is it. And same with this motherboard for any upgrades I may want to do further down the line

Case
LIAN LI LANCOOL 215 GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060TI - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RM SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Subject to stock availability on pre-order products
Price: £1,637.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/U0ZTmYjKrA/

Oh I’ve gone for a 3060ti as well btw but it wouldn’t let me post that one

 

[JUNI0R]

Hey Sanjeet, try and keep all the conversation about a single PC build in one thread. It makes the conversation a lot easier to follow. Would a mod be able to move it to Sanjeet's other thread?

As you've said, the 5600X is a great CPU. Realistically, the main reason I'd recommend the 5800X over the 5600X is if you plan to stream or do anything creative that will take advantage of the extra cores like photo/ video edting, motion graphics, 2/3D design. Focusing on AMD in this article, you can see that they're both very similar in performance when it comes to gaming. The other reason, I'd recommend it is if it comofortably fits in the budget. Ideally you'd not only want the CPU but the X570 motherboard too. If it's something you're stretching your budget for and it's a purely gaming system, you could get the next level of GPU, or add a fast SSD for the price increase that realistically would have a lot more effect.

For how futureproof it is? It's hard to tell, just like with everything in tech. We just don't know what the next advancment or technological uptade is going to be.

The build you linked looks good. I'd upgrade to the TUF B550 Wi-Fi then remove the wireless card (it works out cheaper with the in-built networking). It comes with a 3rd M.2 slot, supports faster ethernet connection and has a better Audio chipset. You can scale the RAM back to 3200mhz if it's purely a gaming build because realistically that's the sweetspot for Ryzen right now. Also, depending on what you play, if you're looking to put your games on SSD (which I'd recommend) you might want to increase the size of the SSD on there, or add a 2nd, meaning if you have to re-install Windows, you don't have to re-install gb's and gb's of games too.

I haven't been too strict on budget here as I know you don't plan to buy for a while, or it was the last time we talked. And realisitcally in a few months, a build could reduce in price by a few hundred £ 😂

 

[Citrus_9]

Both, 5600x and 5800x are great and very recently released CPUs, they're the newest Amd generation. 5800x, as Junior said, is more for multitasking and heavier tasks while the 5600x is a very good mid-range cpu, made for gamers in mind. Extra money for 5800x worth only if you really utilise its capabilities - otherwise you can give that money for "Citrus_9 charity" as I'm planning to buy a new PC this year - would boost my savings 🤓

 

[Ash_]

The 5800X also needs better cooling, ideally a H100i or H115i to fully utilise it’s boost. In terms of futureproofing, 12 threads is currently enough for every game, could this change in the coming years? Maybe.

The 5800X is also better for very cpu intensive games.

If you only intend to game, you’d be better off spending on the gpu

 

[Deleted member 17413]

I think the main factor between them is budget.
As @Ash_ says, a 5800X should really be on better cooling, and ideally motherboard than what you would comfortably pair a 5600X.
For what you would normally be looking at a 5600X/5800X for anyway, theres no specific task that the 5600X will prevent you from being able to do that a 5800X would.

The 5800X is just better at it.

So iI would say its down to budget, and not culling heavily elsewhere in a build to squeeze it in.

 

[Sanjeet]

Hey Sanjeet, try and keep all the conversation about a single PC build in one thread. It makes the conversation a lot easier to follow. Would a mod be able to move it to Sanjeet's other thread?

As you've said, the 5600X is a great CPU. Realistically, the main reason I'd recommend the 5800X over the 5600X is if you plan to stream or do anything creative that will take advantage of the extra cores like photo/ video edting, motion graphics, 2/3D design. Focusing on AMD in this article, you can see that they're both very similar in performance when it comes to gaming. The other reason, I'd recommend it is if it comofortably fits in the budget. Ideally you'd not only want the CPU but the X570 motherboard too. If it's something you're stretching your budget for and it's a purely gaming system, you could get the next level of GPU, or add a fast SSD for the price increase that realistically would have a lot more effect.

For how futureproof it is? It's hard to tell, just like with everything in tech. We just don't know what the next advancment or technological uptade is going to be.

The build you linked looks good. I'd upgrade to the TUF B550 Wi-Fi then remove the wireless card (it works out cheaper with the in-built networking). It comes with a 3rd M.2 slot, supports faster ethernet connection and has a better Audio chipset. You can scale the RAM back to 3200mhz if it's purely a gaming build because realistically that's the sweetspot for Ryzen right now. Also, depending on what you play, if you're looking to put your games on SSD (which I'd recommend) you might want to increase the size of the SSD on there, or add a 2nd, meaning if you have to re-install Windows, you don't have to re-install gb's and gb's of games too.

I haven't been too strict on budget here as I know you don't plan to buy for a while, or it was the last time we talked. And realisitcally in a few months, a build could reduce in price by a few hundred £ 😂

Ahh sorry I didn’t realise 😬 yeah so I only plan to game on it and mainly COD haha. Yeah I did do some research and single core performance for both was quite similar and it just made sense to go for the 5600x so I can stay in budget. If you don’t mind could you make the changes and send the link please

Also I’ve thought about a faster SSD but I’ve settled on the one I’ve chosen as I’ll be happy installing games on my hdd and just having os and a few things here and there on the ssd.

The only reason I changed back to 3600mhz is cos there’s hardly any difference in price but if the motherboard you’ve suggested only supports 3200 then that would obviously be a change I’m willing to go with. So would you say x570 or b550 tuf? And with regards to the wifi card... I do plan to game over wifi 👀 which is working great for me now just cos there’s no port close to me and I do use the 5ghz channel, so would the motherboard with wifi support this? That’s the only reason I added the wifi card cos I know for sure it has dual channel

Yeah so the plan is to have a good idea of the specs I’ll go for as soon as I can buy. Then I’m not wasting anymore time and thanks again for your help

 

[Sanjeet]

Both, 5600x and 5800x are great and very recently released CPUs, they're the newest Amd generation. 5800x, as Junior said, is more for multitasking and heavier tasks while the 5600x is a very good mid-range cpu, made for gamers in mind. Extra money for 5800x worth only if you really utilise its capabilities - otherwise you can give that money for "Citrus_9 charity" as I'm planning to buy a new PC this year - would boost my savings 🤓

Hahahaha I’ll need some time to think about that one 😂😂

 

[Sanjeet]

The 5800X also needs better cooling, ideally a H100i or H115i to fully utilise it’s boost. In terms of futureproofing, 12 threads is currently enough for every game, could this change in the coming years? Maybe.

The 5800X is also better for very cpu intensive games.

If you only intend to game, you’d be better off spending on the gpu

I mainly plan to play COD which is quite cpu intensive. Would the 5600x still handle this well? If I were to upgrade the cpu further down the line, which motherboard would be best to go with now to allow for that upgrade?

 

[Sanjeet]

I think the main factor between them is budget.
As @Ash_ says, a 5800X should really be on better cooling, and ideally motherboard than what you would comfortably pair a 5600X.
For what you would normally be looking at a 5600X/5800X for anyway, theres no specific task that the 5600X will prevent you from being able to do that a 5800X would.

The 5800X is just better at it.

So iI would say its down to budget, and not culling heavily elsewhere in a build to squeeze it in.

Which motherboard would you suggest for the 5600x. I think as you guys have mentioned going with the 5800x and a better cooler is gonna take me further out of budget 😬

 

[Deleted member 17413]

The Tuf B550...depending on how tight the budget you can switch between with WiFi or the separate AX200 WiFi card theres a slight saving.
Both use the same WiFi and give Bluetooth
Better USB options than you get with the Prime as well.

 

[Sanjeet]

The Tuf B550...depending on how tight the budget you can switch between with WiFi or the separate AX200 WiFi card theres a slight saving.
Both use the same WiFi and give Bluetooth
Better USB options than you get with the Prime as well.

So originally it was around £1500 but I could go up to £1600. The build ive gone with is the 3060ti which comes to just over £1500 but it wouldn’t let me post it here cos it’s out of stock.

So does the tuf b550 also have the dual channel wifi at the same speeds?

 

[Deleted member 17413]

£1500 with a £150 buffer if genuinely worth it...

Id change the last confiuration you posted £1637 one) to this:

The Lian Li 215 has static fans, and i'm sure ive seen several mention the Coolermaster H500 as a decent case
If you arent going to use ray tracing or DLSS then the 6700XT has been spoken about being a very good choice, and a massive saving. Comparible to the 3070. If you actively use those setting, then the 3060Ti is a nice option assuming monitors are standard 27" 1440p and i think is a £50 increase on this. You could just drop the 2TB Barracuda HDD to balance that a little as youve got good M.2 storage in there already.


Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500 ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS WiFi (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
12GB AMD RADEON™ RX 6700 XT - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 2500MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RM SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £1,621.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/d6HXSmV03g/

 

[Deleted member 17413]

So originally it was around £1500 but I could go up to £1600. The build ive gone with is the 3060ti which comes to just over £1500 but it wouldn’t let me post it here cos it’s out of stock.

So does the tuf b550 also have the dual channel wifi at the same speeds?

Yeah its not taking fresh orders for it atm, but you can spec a 6700XT, or 3070 and put order in, then amend to the 3060 Ti...should then allow you to proceed but will flag ETA warnings.

The onboard WiFi is the same as the card, both are AX200's, and some digging by others has found they both have Bluetooth 5.... Asus seem to have missed it off their website. (search B550M and B550, people double checked through various retailers lol)

I missed out the Arctic Thermal paste, which is £9. One of the mods was speaking about the value in it given paste jobs/less heat production with the lower CPUs and wait times on RMAs probably factor in too at the moment.
Personally I would take it, but ive not been unlucky with paste jobs on laptops in the past and I got a corsair AIO with my recent build, so probably sidestepped that possible trip hazard.

 

[Ash_]

I mainly plan to play COD which is quite cpu intensive. Would the 5600x still handle this well? If I were to upgrade the cpu further down the line, which motherboard would be best to go with now to allow for that upgrade?

I think when i have looked at usage on warzone, my 5800X is below 50% so the 5600X will play it with ease

 

[Sanjeet]

£1500 with a £150 buffer if genuinely worth it...

Id change the last confiuration you posted £1637 one) to this:

The Lian Li 215 has static fans, and i'm sure ive seen several mention the Coolermaster H500 as a decent case
If you arent going to use ray tracing or DLSS then the 6700XT has been spoken about being a very good choice, and a massive saving. Comparible to the 3070. If you actively use those setting, then the 3060Ti is a nice option assuming monitors are standard 27" 1440p and i think is a £50 increase on this. You could just drop the 2TB Barracuda HDD to balance that a little as youve got good M.2 storage in there already.


Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500 ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS WiFi (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
12GB AMD RADEON™ RX 6700 XT - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 2500MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RM SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 240 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £1,621.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/d6HXSmV03g/

Thanks for the changes. Yeah so after a lot of thought I’ve decided to go with the 3060ti. What do you mean by static fans btw. And would you say there’s no real advantage of going for 3600mhz in which case I could go for the rgb 3200 to spice things up a bit 😂

 

[Citrus_9]

I think when i have looked at usage on warzone, my 5800X is below 50% so the 5600X will play it with ease

I can't think of any game 5600x wouldn't be capable to deal with.